{"topic":{"id":14852,"title":"你未来的理想生活是什么样的","slug":"topic","userId":4668,"categoryId":4,"createdAt":"2025-07-02 04:52:18.387784","bumpedAt":"2025-07-06 14:47:47.808927","views":2486,"postsCount":270,"highestPostNumber":273,"likeCount":116,"closed":false,"pinned":false,"pinnedGlobally":false,"pinnedAt":null,"pinnedUntil":null,"isBanner":false,"excerpt":"你觉得你走在接近它的道路上了吗","deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"isPrivate":false,"isMembersOnly":false,"category":{"id":4,"name":"谈笑风生","slug":"general","color":"25AAE2"},"author":{"id":4668,"username":"IO","name":null,"avatarUrl":null},"realAuthor":{"id":4668,"username":"IO","name":null,"avatarUrl":null},"tags":[]},"posts":[{"id":59087,"postNumber":1,"raw":"你觉得你走在接近它的道路上了吗","cooked":"

你觉得你走在接近它的道路上了吗

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想买个小别墅，两层独栋，带车库和地下室，位置偏一点无所谓
\n地下室里面放服务器 😋
\n内存条和硬盘塞满，家里全屋 10G 有线，肯定得走光纤
\n全屋智能家居，楼上可以加个光伏发电
\n家门口得有个小花园，给外婆拿来养花花草草
\n再养条狗，养个猫
\n狗有点想养萨摩耶或者田园犬，猫只想养狸花
\n还想整个专门的房间拿来看电影，找个巨大的 OLED 电视、杜比全景声系统，墙面全吸音棉处理，然后再接上电脑和 PS，打游戏直接爽飞 😋

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ぜーんぶ弾けなーい！

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工作的话，不想 996，最好是那种只要我活干好了，你管我啥时候干的，干了多久
\n参与一个我真正觉得有价值、能打磨细节的项目，可能是一个开源工具，也可能是个和图像、建模、算法相关的创意活
\n但感觉这种只有可能在那种有稳定产出的小厂里面才能实现了

通常有自己的成熟产品，有稳定现金流；
技术团队不大但比较自由，不用天天填 KPI 和画饼；
如果老板懂技术或不瞎指挥，那就更好了；
没有大厂那么多流程、汇报、站队，反而能静下心做事

希望能找到个好老板抱抱大腿

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ぜーんぶ弾けなーい！

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目前参与的某个小厂的开发，其实有这种趋势
\n但是不知道产品能不能做起来 🥺
\n或者找个富婆也行啊，也算少走弯路了

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ぜーんぶ弾けなーい！

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归根到底还是没钱 🤣
\n有钱了到处玩

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ぜーんぶ弾けなーい！

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钱够用，家庭美满，孩子懂事，工作压力不大（不一定是喜欢的工作，但是钱够，强度不算高）
\n住房在那种新开发区（市中心与城郊之间）基本生活设施齐全，人没有多到堵车的地步
\n有休闲时间去干自己的乐子/体育爱好/亲子活动

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年月擦身过，暂且问，会更好吗？

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想过刘慈欣早年的那种生活，白天有一个稳定不需要 kpi 的工作维生，晚上读书写作。（螺丝钉和钢笔的二相性 $\":magic_wand_grin:\"$
\n或者在神秘小厂和志同道合的伙伴全职做独游

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此人不语，只是一味地在门里生产废料。

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我也想去神秘小厂

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他不是在电厂上班嘛？
\n我有同学在华电学电气，他们辅导员让他们找点安静点的爱好，以后电厂值班的时候用得上 🤣

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ぜーんぶ弾けなーい！

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偏一点还好，电厂倒班最磨人

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此人不语，只是一味地在门里生产废料。

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$\"image\"$
\n~~受不了了我要谴责昨天想出这个建议的門友了~~

总之能有一套千禧年美学的房子，然后塞各种小学作文里的想象作品
\n😡没上过班，有小厂要我就好了

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今天和同事聚餐的时候也在聊这个

可能我现在理想是感兴趣的工作内容和一定的名气，无论是论文或者博客或者技术报告什么的形式积攒下来，希望其他人谈论到某项技术的时候可以顺嘴提一句“某司某组的 z 一串好像在搞这个”。

好像还是太理想主义了

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曾经被谷歌的理想和待遇蛊惑，想做湾区大厂程序员或研究员，但自从想到字节程序员的每一分工资都来自对整整三代人的注意力剥夺、分化对立、欺骗包装、市场操纵，自己的劳动可能只会换来更多剥削，就觉得恶心地难以再对这个职业有一点兴趣。

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第二顺位是 FIRE，躺平拿时间做自己想做的事，我认为也很好，但难以与社会产生链接。冷知识，张益唐在 subway 打工按定义也可以算 FIRE

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住好房，开好车，娶个好妻子，生对好儿女，走上人生巅峰。

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我一直想要一个带地下室的……多层真没啥意义除非是能做挑高的。
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入职 onlyfans

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期待您的大作

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\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t鳳笑夢，post:20, topic:14852, username:emu_otori:\n\t\t\t\t\t\t

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活络油
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我一般会要求“不要中成药”
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入职 onlyfans≠成为 onlyfans 博主，一个是给公司干技术方面的活，一个是在 onlyfans 这个平台上自己出产优质内容。

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不知道活络油是啥，只是在模仿歌词

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新的理想生活是像导师一样做教职扶持学生。导师是一个非常风趣幽默的人，而且不计回报地给本科生提供了很多引导与资源，从学生的角度来讲他无疑是一个优秀的理想主义者。除了导师，我也遇到过很多好老师，可以说对我的影响很深，所以就像那个被军人救出废墟的男孩成为了军人一样，我想尝试着成为老师。
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虽然生活还没走到导师那一步，但初高中的班主任都对我有很大的正面影响，巧合的是她们都是数学老师。我某个社交平台上的 id 也是因为她们而起的。
\n但我不知道我能不能当好老师。教数学我算是有自信，中学考了一个相对可以的成绩，也给同学讲了很多题。但育人感觉很不一样，当班主任面对几十个学生是很难的事。我高中纯因为人际关系很痛苦，班里也有其他因为同学关系痛苦的人。我现在回想仅仅是我看到的那部分初高中时班里的人际矛盾冲突，依旧想不到任何解决的办法。
\n（或许导师很不一样，只是提到老师的一种有感而发）

\n","createdAt":"2025-07-02 17:04:35.777098","updatedAt":"2025-07-02 17:07:20.197226","replyToPostNumber":null,"replyCount":2,"likeCount":1,"wordCount":389,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[{"reaction":"❤️","count":1,"users":[{"id":5905,"username":"PipaQinse233","name":"PipaQinse233"}],"hasReacted":false}],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":7014,"username":"兴庆宫第一迷路幽灵","name":"post deleted by author","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/bb/0e/bb0ebbc98562fa3e00284e17f15383c53f688af071adf093639e69f313d610a1.avif","admin":false,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":"此人不语，只是一味地在门里生产废料。","signatureCooked":"

此人不语，只是一味地在门里生产废料。

\n"}},{"id":59212,"postNumber":27,"raw":"[quote=\"帖子已被作者删除，post:26, topic:14852, username:随风不逝\"]\n*纯因为人际关系*很痛苦，班里也有其他*因为同学关系*痛苦的人\n[/quote]\n\n仔细说说？我感觉高中学业和人际关系都非常好","cooked":"

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纯因为人际关系很痛苦，班里也有其他因为同学关系痛苦的人
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仔细说说？我感觉高中学业和人际关系都非常好

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（post deleted by author)
\n如果换我回去当老师我真不知道怎么处理这种情况🏳️如果当老师能只教课就好了

\n","createdAt":"2025-07-02 17:27:40.783327","updatedAt":"2025-09-29 18:12:41.228293","replyToPostNumber":27,"replyCount":4,"likeCount":1,"wordCount":39,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[{"reaction":"hugging_face_exploding_head","count":1,"users":[{"id":5905,"username":"PipaQinse233","name":"PipaQinse233"}],"hasReacted":false},{"reaction":"❤️","count":1,"users":[{"id":5905,"username":"PipaQinse233","name":"PipaQinse233"}],"hasReacted":false}],"wiki":false,"version":2,"publicVersion":2,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":7014,"username":"兴庆宫第一迷路幽灵","name":"post deleted by author","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/bb/0e/bb0ebbc98562fa3e00284e17f15383c53f688af071adf093639e69f313d610a1.avif","admin":false,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":"此人不语，只是一味地在门里生产废料。","signatureCooked":"

此人不语，只是一味地在门里生产废料。

\n"}},{"id":59216,"postNumber":29,"raw":"小崽子们就该狠狠抽一顿，你是老师就得当所有人面收拾 B，给 A 和 A 后座道歉，让全班知道什么的对的。","cooked":"

小崽子们就该狠狠抽一顿，你是老师就得当所有人面收拾 B，给 A 和 A 后座道歉，让全班知道什么的对的。

\n","createdAt":"2025-07-02 17:30:41.560418","updatedAt":"2025-07-02 17:30:41.560418","replyToPostNumber":28,"replyCount":1,"likeCount":0,"wordCount":46,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":4148,"username":"sad-dharma-vipralopa","name":"Echo est ubi sum","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/fd/e3/fde3022e639c0b35239b5c831c0f8ea3600eceb69353bcc2fb5e795f79d789ca.avif","admin":false,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":null,"signatureCooked":null}},{"id":59217,"postNumber":30,"raw":"[quote=\"帖子已被作者删除，post:28, topic:14852, username:随风不逝\"]\n如果当老师能只教课就好了\n[/quote]\n\n我倒是觉得初中老师最不重要的事情就是教书 :pleading:\n感觉对于青少年而言，心理上的引导作用更重要\n我见过不少初中因为某些事情心理出了问题，没有纠正，结果最后出了大问题的同学 :melt:","cooked":"

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如果当老师能只教课就好了
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我倒是觉得初中老师最不重要的事情就是教书 🥺
\n感觉对于青少年而言，心理上的引导作用更重要
\n我见过不少初中因为某些事情心理出了问题，没有纠正，结果最后出了大问题的同学 🫠

\n","createdAt":"2025-07-02 17:31:44.610477","updatedAt":"2025-07-02 17:31:44.610477","replyToPostNumber":28,"replyCount":1,"likeCount":0,"wordCount":110,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":5151,"username":"Soyo34325","name":"Soyo34325","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/9d/e5/9de500d3afb55c0fe71e319832f2af75532222efe94bd3de9aea21f0f5c55707.avif","admin":false,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":"ぜーんぶ弾けなーい！","signatureCooked":"

ぜーんぶ弾けなーい！

\n"}},{"id":59218,"postNumber":31,"raw":"因为我只会教课🏳️","cooked":"

因为我只会教课🏳️

\n","createdAt":"2025-07-02 17:32:12.697762","updatedAt":"2025-07-02 17:32:12.697762","replyToPostNumber":30,"replyCount":2,"likeCount":0,"wordCount":8,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":7014,"username":"兴庆宫第一迷路幽灵","name":"post deleted by author","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/bb/0e/bb0ebbc98562fa3e00284e17f15383c53f688af071adf093639e69f313d610a1.avif","admin":false,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":"此人不语，只是一味地在门里生产废料。","signatureCooked":"

此人不语，只是一味地在门里生产废料。

\n"}},{"id":59219,"postNumber":32,"raw":"当教师得有足够的威严和震慑力，你这性格迟早得被一届届畜生小鬼们骑到头上去\n\n能把持好的就两类教师，一类是老教师德高望重，啥事不掺和，下课就走人；一类是中年班主任，得学会变脸，变脸，变脸。","cooked":"

当教师得有足够的威严和震慑力，你这性格迟早得被一届届畜生小鬼们骑到头上去

能把持好的就两类教师，一类是老教师德高望重，啥事不掺和，下课就走人；一类是中年班主任，得学会变脸，变脸，变脸。

\n","createdAt":"2025-07-02 17:33:11.65241","updatedAt":"2025-07-02 17:36:41.48593","replyToPostNumber":null,"replyCount":1,"likeCount":1,"wordCount":91,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[{"reaction":"❤️","count":1,"users":[{"id":5905,"username":"PipaQinse233","name":"PipaQinse233"}],"hasReacted":false}],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":4148,"username":"sad-dharma-vipralopa","name":"Echo est ubi sum","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/fd/e3/fde3022e639c0b35239b5c831c0f8ea3600eceb69353bcc2fb5e795f79d789ca.avif","admin":false,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":null,"signatureCooked":null}},{"id":59220,"postNumber":33,"raw":"所以我知道我当不成老师 :magic_wand_grin: 只是羡慕寒暑假寒暑假！ :loudly_crying_face:","cooked":"

所以我知道我当不成老师 $\":magic_wand_grin:\"$ 只是羡慕寒暑假寒暑假！ 😭

\n","createdAt":"2025-07-02 17:33:58.938908","updatedAt":"2025-07-02 17:33:58.938908","replyToPostNumber":32,"replyCount":0,"likeCount":1,"wordCount":24,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[{"reaction":"❤️","count":1,"users":[{"id":5351,"username":"Xrystal-line","name":"羽流弦ノ迹"}],"hasReacted":false}],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":7014,"username":"兴庆宫第一迷路幽灵","name":"post deleted by author","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/bb/0e/bb0ebbc98562fa3e00284e17f15383c53f688af071adf093639e69f313d610a1.avif","admin":false,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":"此人不语，只是一味地在门里生产废料。","signatureCooked":"

此人不语，只是一味地在门里生产废料。

\n"}},{"id":59221,"postNumber":34,"raw":"当老师有点太安逸了 :melt:\n能进公立还好，之前认识一个去私立的历史老师，因为各种原因被裁，三十多岁又重新找工作\n老师这个行业除了教书真的一点生存力都莫得","cooked":"

当老师有点太安逸了 🫠
\n能进公立还好，之前认识一个去私立的历史老师，因为各种原因被裁，三十多岁又重新找工作
\n老师这个行业除了教书真的一点生存力都莫得

\n","createdAt":"2025-07-02 17:34:14.272647","updatedAt":"2025-07-02 17:34:14.272647","replyToPostNumber":31,"replyCount":0,"likeCount":0,"wordCount":71,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":5151,"username":"Soyo34325","name":"Soyo34325","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/9d/e5/9de500d3afb55c0fe71e319832f2af75532222efe94bd3de9aea21f0f5c55707.avif","admin":false,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":"ぜーんぶ弾けなーい！","signatureCooked":"

ぜーんぶ弾けなーい！

\n"}},{"id":59222,"postNumber":35,"raw":"一个具体的事件是比较好解决的，更难解决的是 (post deleted by author)","cooked":"

一个具体的事件是比较好解决的，更难解决的是 (post deleted by author)

\n","createdAt":"2025-07-02 17:40:38.772766","updatedAt":"2025-09-29 18:13:04.925935","replyToPostNumber":29,"replyCount":2,"likeCount":0,"wordCount":25,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[],"wiki":false,"version":2,"publicVersion":2,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":7014,"username":"兴庆宫第一迷路幽灵","name":"post deleted by author","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/bb/0e/bb0ebbc98562fa3e00284e17f15383c53f688af071adf093639e69f313d610a1.avif","admin":false,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":"此人不语，只是一味地在门里生产废料。","signatureCooked":"

此人不语，只是一味地在门里生产废料。

\n"}},{"id":59223,"postNumber":36,"raw":"不仅靠威慑养成不欺人的习惯，也要让学生理智上接受正确的观念。\n平时也多讲讲《杀死一只知更鸟》之类的书，不能因为别人不一样就去骚扰欺负，“杀死一只知更鸟就是犯罪”","cooked":"

不仅靠威慑养成不欺人的习惯，也要让学生理智上接受正确的观念。
\n平时也多讲讲《杀死一只知更鸟》之类的书，不能因为别人不一样就去骚扰欺负，“杀死一只知更鸟就是犯罪”

\n","createdAt":"2025-07-02 17:44:52.446174","updatedAt":"2025-07-02 17:45:42.410605","replyToPostNumber":35,"replyCount":0,"likeCount":1,"wordCount":78,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[{"reaction":"❤️","count":1,"users":[{"id":5905,"username":"PipaQinse233","name":"PipaQinse233"}],"hasReacted":false}],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":4148,"username":"sad-dharma-vipralopa","name":"Echo est ubi sum","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/fd/e3/fde3022e639c0b35239b5c831c0f8ea3600eceb69353bcc2fb5e795f79d789ca.avif","admin":false,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":null,"signatureCooked":null}},{"id":59224,"postNumber":37,"raw":"可能我习惯了冷漠，遇到过类似的事情，不参与也意识到自己解决不了，也没什么难受的","cooked":"

可能我习惯了冷漠，遇到过类似的事情，不参与也意识到自己解决不了，也没什么难受的

\n","createdAt":"2025-07-02 17:48:46.579184","updatedAt":"2025-07-02 17:48:46.579184","replyToPostNumber":35,"replyCount":0,"likeCount":0,"wordCount":39,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":4668,"username":"IO","name":null,"avatarUrl":null,"admin":true,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":"","signatureCooked":null}},{"id":59226,"postNumber":39,"raw":"被欺负有什么不好释怀的，恶人自有恶人磨，相信自己的理智，平静收集好一切证据，就是永远悬在施恶者头上的达摩克利斯剑，时而给对方露两手，他睡不好觉的","cooked":"

被欺负有什么不好释怀的，恶人自有恶人磨，相信自己的理智，平静收集好一切证据，就是永远悬在施恶者头上的达摩克利斯剑，时而给对方露两手，他睡不好觉的

\n","createdAt":"2025-07-02 18:02:53.118825","updatedAt":"2025-07-02 18:02:53.118825","replyToPostNumber":38,"replyCount":1,"likeCount":0,"wordCount":72,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":4668,"username":"IO","name":null,"avatarUrl":null,"admin":true,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":"","signatureCooked":null}},{"id":59227,"postNumber":40,"raw":"[quote=\"shared_user, post:39, topic:14852, username:anonymous_coward\"]\n相信自己的理智\n[/quote]\n\n是的，应当永远爱我主贝伦，以避免陷入泥潭打滚的命运。","cooked":"

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相信自己的理智
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是的，应当永远爱我主贝伦，以避免陷入泥潭打滚的命运。

\n","createdAt":"2025-07-02 18:06:05.142106","updatedAt":"2025-07-02 18:06:05.142106","replyToPostNumber":39,"replyCount":0,"likeCount":1,"wordCount":38,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[{"reaction":"hugging_face_exploding_head","count":1,"users":[{"id":7014,"username":"兴庆宫第一迷路幽灵","name":"post deleted by author"}],"hasReacted":false},{"reaction":"❤️","count":1,"users":[{"id":7014,"username":"兴庆宫第一迷路幽灵","name":"post deleted by author"}],"hasReacted":false}],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":4148,"username":"sad-dharma-vipralopa","name":"Echo est ubi sum","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/fd/e3/fde3022e639c0b35239b5c831c0f8ea3600eceb69353bcc2fb5e795f79d789ca.avif","admin":false,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":null,"signatureCooked":null}},{"id":59230,"postNumber":41,"raw":"暂时只能想到钱 :moneybag:\n肯定还有些别的追求，明天再想","cooked":"

暂时只能想到钱 💰️
\n肯定还有些别的追求，明天再想

\n","createdAt":"2025-07-02 20:00:06.211455","updatedAt":"2025-07-02 20:00:30.65223","replyToPostNumber":null,"replyCount":0,"likeCount":0,"wordCount":22,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":1628,"username":"Lorange","name":"主治医师李大华","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/f8/ec/f8ecbeb887c4a1311f4f0bf05928476c7b3f632d15bb2b24e782baf2ba6f0d71.avif","admin":false,"moderator":true,"signatureRaw":null,"signatureCooked":null}},{"id":59231,"postNumber":42,"raw":"哎，我也觉得做中学阶段的老师其实很难，要竭力引导一屋子叛逆青少年，还要看着他们被优绩主义压力摧残。大学教职一般最多一门课，和大部分学生的互动少很多，面对的学生更成熟，只要培养自己筛选出的人就行了","cooked":"

哎，我也觉得做中学阶段的老师其实很难，要竭力引导一屋子叛逆青少年，还要看着他们被优绩主义压力摧残。大学教职一般最多一门课，和大部分学生的互动少很多，面对的学生更成熟，只要培养自己筛选出的人就行了

\n","createdAt":"2025-07-02 22:07:10.430511","updatedAt":"2025-07-02 22:07:10.430511","replyToPostNumber":26,"replyCount":1,"likeCount":0,"wordCount":97,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":601,"username":"m0rsun","name":null,"avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/37/7f/377f4ae853850691ab959270f01d52509ee07caf808041ddb0ab22488a0e9f85.avif","admin":false,"moderator":true,"signatureRaw":null,"signatureCooked":null}},{"id":59237,"postNumber":43,"raw":"我觉得教育，教和育需要的完全是不同的能力。教简单，只需要传授知识就行，育就很难。可以大搞教培，初高中竞赛，小学奥数什么的，只管教，不管育，而且赚钱能力不弱（据我所知不少老师搞教培买了五套房，或者大别野随便买），甚至不需要编制，完全影响不到生活品质。","cooked":"

我觉得教育，教和育需要的完全是不同的能力。教简单，只需要传授知识就行，育就很难。可以大搞教培，初高中竞赛，小学奥数什么的，只管教，不管育，而且赚钱能力不弱（据我所知不少老师搞教培买了五套房，或者大别野随便买），甚至不需要编制，完全影响不到生活品质。

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大学教职太卷了 $\":mouse_hole:\"$

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此人不语，只是一味地在门里生产废料。

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如果打过数竞还挺想去教奥数的……但现在双减感觉挺难的 $\":mouse_hole:\"$

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此人不语，只是一味地在门里生产废料。

\n"}},{"id":59241,"postNumber":46,"raw":"初高中竞赛可能需要打过数竞，小学奥数不需要。双减不用管他，只要待在一个重教育地区的小县城就行，除非你树敌太多别人举报你，否则不会被抓。","cooked":"

初高中竞赛可能需要打过数竞，小学奥数不需要。双减不用管他，只要待在一个重教育地区的小县城就行，除非你树敌太多别人举报你，否则不会被抓。

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男人恐惧承认这样一种现实，where 男性群体并不是自己永远、坚不可摧的精神堡垒，不断有边界上的个体掉出该群体，转化成为女性。这意味着若自己在男性竞争中失败，自己也会被踢到边缘，变成女性

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我初中的时候没变声于是当了三年团宠（
\n很幸运遇到了好同学

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听听

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近几年的科技行业让我切身体会到了，在资本主义生产关系中每一分技术进步都会被用来生产相对剩余价值，而不是用来改善大众生活质量。

我还是忘不掉“出海”之后，抖音的风评是怎样突然从“降智低俗小视频平台”180 度大扭转变成“为国争光的民族骄傲”的。一个用榨干程序员血汗生产出来用于尽可能一丝不剩地剥夺用户注意力的暴利机器，却能使每一个不是字节股东的中国人不由自主地仰起头。就像出了幻觉一样，中国作为禁毒大国，还是没能禁了爱国主义、宏大叙事这种制幻剂。

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这些东西就像酒精和 drug 一样，用户可以自由选择是否使用，市场规模这么大说明消费者爱用，一边用一边骂就有点精神分裂了

\n","createdAt":"2025-07-03 14:15:32.665177","updatedAt":"2025-07-03 14:15:32.665177","replyToPostNumber":null,"replyCount":1,"likeCount":0,"wordCount":55,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":4668,"username":"IO","name":null,"avatarUrl":null,"admin":true,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":"","signatureCooked":null}},{"id":59342,"postNumber":52,"raw":"职场也是一样的，都是双向自由选择的结果，高强度工作对应的高工资，又不存在奴役和强迫劳动，不愿意做辞职去 955 的低工资单位就是。\n\n阶级剥削这些文科黑话体系反而是通过仇恨对立搞政治结盟的，然而现实世界的结果表明，公会没 p 用，博弈论，微观经济学市场规律反而具有最好的预测性质","cooked":"

职场也是一样的，都是双向自由选择的结果，高强度工作对应的高工资，又不存在奴役和强迫劳动，不愿意做辞职去 955 的低工资单位就是。

阶级剥削这些文科黑话体系反而是通过仇恨对立搞政治结盟的，然而现实世界的结果表明，公会没 p 用，博弈论，微观经济学市场规律反而具有最好的预测性质

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公会没 p 用
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这里指的是欧美大多数行业

韩国医学公会还是有用的，疯狂限制医学学生的数量，导致医疗成本极高，消费者买单，医务人员高强度工作高工资

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这些东西就像酒精和 drug 一样，用户可以自由选择是否使用，市场规模这么大说明消费者爱用，一边用一边骂就有点精神分裂了
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用户可以自由选择抽不抽鸦片，鸦片销量这么高说明我们大清人爱抽，林则徐不尊重市场选择，应该是罪人

论自由放任，还是美国人会玩。结果现在把喜欢用有形的大手暴击市场的 Trump 选上来了，是不是说明美国市场自由地选择了不要市场自由

以及在很多场景下，你没有自由选择的权利。比如谈生意的饭桌上，你可以自由选择不喝酒，那领导或客户也就可以自由地选择不要你/不和你签合同。

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大清人确实爱抽，地球资源是有限的，有人乐意领达尔文奖也挺有意思的。

短视频不见得是啥坏处，又能维稳又能减轻中老年人的痴呆风险

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和美国有啥关系，我也看不惯美国

\n","createdAt":"2025-07-03 14:34:20.023555","updatedAt":"2025-07-03 14:34:20.023555","replyToPostNumber":54,"replyCount":0,"likeCount":0,"wordCount":15,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":4668,"username":"IO","name":null,"avatarUrl":null,"admin":true,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":"","signatureCooked":null}},{"id":59350,"postNumber":57,"raw":"中老年人不知道，但过量摄入网络鸦片已经让青少年群体痴呆了。新西兰正考虑禁止 16 岁以下使用社交媒体\n\nhttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/may/06/new-zealand-pm-luxon-social-media-ban-children","cooked":"

中老年人不知道，但过量摄入网络鸦片已经让青少年群体痴呆了。新西兰正考虑禁止 16 岁以下使用社交媒体

\n","createdAt":"2025-07-03 14:36:15.799467","updatedAt":"2025-07-03 14:36:15.799467","replyToPostNumber":55,"replyCount":1,"likeCount":0,"wordCount":48,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":7137,"username":"emu_otori","name":"鳳笑夢","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/0b/13/0b133abcd3dfadb90fdbf7583cfdc31ec56db3dbd063fce95dbe0f09296b527a.avif","admin":false,"moderator":true,"signatureRaw":null,"signatureCooked":null}},{"id":59352,"postNumber":58,"raw":"选举也不是市场行为，一人一票不是很 robust 的加权，民主历来和自由不是完全兼容的\n\n\n[quote=\"鳳笑夢，post:54, topic:14852, username:emu_otori\"]\n你没有自由选择的权利\n[/quote]\n\n[quote=\"鳳笑夢，post:54, topic:14852, username:emu_otori\"]\n你可以自由选择不喝酒\n[/quote]\n\n所以我到底有没有自由","cooked":"

选举也不是市场行为，一人一票不是很 robust 的加权，民主历来和自由不是完全兼容的

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你没有自由选择的权利
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你可以自由选择不喝酒
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所以我到底有没有自由

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不同年龄阶段大脑的情况是很不一样的，中老年和青年人的社交环境也不一样

当然，就算和酒精一样完全有害，立法保护未成年人当然没问题，成年人还不愿意对自己负责就该去领达尔文奖了

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理论上你有无限的自由，因为你的所有决定都是由你的意志自行做出的。但权力通过改变不同策略组合的收益来迫使你做出有利于对方的选择。

当你被枪指着时，你就不太有不配合的自由。

当你在美国边检被要求检查电子设备时，你就不太有不提供的自由。

当你看到算法根据你的喜好和弱点精准推送的内容，让你看完这 15 秒的视频的瞬时喜悦远远超过了拿这 15 秒去享受生活的收益时，你就不太有不看的自由。

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我倒是觉得故意向未成年人销售酒精、烟草的人，以及发明出抢夺你所有注意力的推荐算法的人，应该去领“社会达尔文奖”，以表彰他们在淘汰掉非精英人群方面做出的卓越贡献

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理论上你有无限的自由
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此论断有失偏颇。人是否有自愿放弃自由的自由？这种放弃自由意味着以后永久不能恢复自由身。如果有，那么人就可以没有自由；如果没有，那么自由就不是无限的。

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发明推荐算法的人可能并没有错，但大规模应用到盈利的一定是千古罪人

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你站也应用了推荐算法，但没有盈利，所以 admin 不用被 🔫 😅

\n","createdAt":"2025-07-03 14:51:44.438562","updatedAt":"2025-07-03 14:51:44.438562","replyToPostNumber":63,"replyCount":0,"likeCount":1,"wordCount":25,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[{"reaction":"🤣️","count":1,"users":[{"id":5905,"username":"PipaQinse233","name":"PipaQinse233"}],"hasReacted":false},{"reaction":"❤️","count":1,"users":[{"id":5905,"username":"PipaQinse233","name":"PipaQinse233"}],"hasReacted":false}],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":4668,"username":"IO","name":null,"avatarUrl":null,"admin":true,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":"","signatureCooked":null}},{"id":59369,"postNumber":65,"raw":"Related Material \nhttps://plato.stanford.edu/entries/compatibilism/","cooked":"

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我历来是不愿意和“只想赢”的诡辩争论的，不过还是可以写一下，这无非是不同人价值观的问题

你的例子总是充满了反自由的强迫，从而论证不应该自由选择

立法应该禁止的是强迫和欺诈等行为，而不是反行其道

1. 被枪指着时（非法暴力胁迫）

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  A. 配合：交出财物。
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  B. 不配合：交出生命。
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成本/收益分析：
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  策略 A 的成本： 损失财物。机会成本是保住财物的可能性（几乎为零）。
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  策略 B 的成本： 极高概率损失生命或遭受严重身体伤害 。机会成本是“活着”。
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诡辩之处：
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这里的“权力”（持枪者）是非法的，其行为是社会契约明确禁止的强制 (Coercion) 。将这种情况与自由市场的讨价还价相提并论，本身就是一种价值判断上的堕落。法律禁止的正是这种通过非法暴力创造极端不对等成本结构的行为。

2. 美国边检检查电子设备（公权力强制）

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可选策略：
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  A. 配合：提供设备和密码。
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  B. 不配合：拒绝提供。
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成本/收益分析：
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  策略 A 的成本： 隐私被侵犯，数据可能被复制，个人信息面临风险。
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  策略 B 的成本： 被拒绝入境，航班作废，行程泡汤，可能被列入黑名单，甚至短期拘留。其机会成本是本次出行的全部目的和投入 。
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诡辩之处：
\n这里的“权力”（边检）是合法的公权力，但其行使范围和边界是现代政治争论的焦点。与第一个例子不同，这里的成本不是生命威胁，但同样是极其不成比例 的。
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诡辩者再次将“拒绝入境”这一由国家暴力机器保障的惩罚，描述为一种平淡的“收益改变”。这忽略了权力来源的不对等性 。个人与国家机器之间，不存在平等的议价能力。你为了入境，已经付出了巨大的沉没成本（机票、酒店、时间）。边检人员通过不成比例的惩罚成本来迫使你放弃隐私权。

这虽然不是非法胁迫，但依然是强制。争论的焦点应该是：政府在何种程度上可以用这种强制力来交换公民的权利？ 将其归结为和买菜一样的“自由选择”，是在为无限扩张的公权力张目。

以及如果你作为移民，应该预先知道这样的概率，应该自己计算收益和风险。如果你不知道有这样的检查，可能是你调研不足。如果是随意搜查的话，搜查者是违法的。

3. 算法精准推送（商业算法诱导）

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可选策略：
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  A. 观看 15 秒视频。
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  B. 划走，去做别的事（享受生活）。
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成本/收益分析：
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  策略 A 的收益： 获得一次瞬时、廉价、精准定制的多巴胺快感。
  \n
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  策略 A 的成本： 15 秒时间。但真正的成本是隐形的、累积的：
  \n
  1. \n
    认知成本： 打断了你的心流，消耗了你的注意力储备。
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  2. \n
    机会成本： 放弃了用这段时间进行深度思考、有意义的社交或创造性工作的长期复合收益 。
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    成瘾成本： 强化了“即时满足”的神经回路，使你未来更难抵御诱惑，意志力被不断磨损。
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  策略 B 的收益： 保护了注意力和心流，获得了构建长期幸福感的可能性。
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  策略 B 的成本： 需要付出额外的意志力去对抗一个由数千名工程师和心理学家精心设计的“多巴胺陷阱”。
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诡辩之处：
\n这是三个例子中最微妙，也是最核心的。它不同于前两者的“强制”，更接近于一种系统性的操纵 (Manipulation) 。
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  信息不对称： 你只知道你想“放松一下”，而算法平台拥有关于你海量的个人数据，了解你最隐秘的心理弱点。这不是一场公平的博弈。
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  成本外部化： 平台获得了你的注意力和数据（并将其变现），但你的长期认知损害和机会成本损失，平台是不承担的。
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  混淆短期收益与长期成本： 诡辩者只强调“瞬时喜悦”超过了“15 秒享受生活”的收益，却刻意忽略了其巨大的、累积的隐性成本 。这就像一个高利贷贩子说：“你看，我借你的 100 块钱，让你立刻解决了吃饭问题，这个收益难道不比你明天可能挣到 10 块钱的收益大吗？”他绝口不提那高到天际的利息。
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立法禁止向未成年人售卖烟酒，正是因为我们承认：对于意志力、认知能力和信息处理能力尚不成熟的个体，我们有责任保护他们免受这种利用人性弱点进行“收益设计”的侵害。

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发明推荐算法的人可能并没有错，但大规模应用到盈利的一定是千古罪人
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为什么你觉得你可以定罪？

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这是个 meta-question 了。我愿意认为自由永远是无限的，但你没有“超越自由”的自由。就像实数可以无限接近 +∞，但无法达到 +∞。

放弃自由需要比自由更高阶的自由

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why not?

\n","createdAt":"2025-07-03 15:00:37.260869","updatedAt":"2025-07-03 15:00:37.260869","replyToPostNumber":67,"replyCount":0,"likeCount":0,"wordCount":2,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":4668,"username":"IO","name":null,"avatarUrl":null,"admin":true,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":"","signatureCooked":null}},{"id":59374,"postNumber":70,"raw":"不要总是混淆法律和自由市场之间的职能，也不要认为特定的自己（而非无知之幕之后的自己）的利益就是至高无上的（自然界是以基因种群为单位演化的，人类社会是以文化模因种群为单位演化的），这样只会显得很滑稽。","cooked":"

不要总是混淆法律和自由市场之间的职能，也不要认为特定的自己（而非无知之幕之后的自己）的利益就是至高无上的（自然界是以基因种群为单位演化的，人类社会是以文化模因种群为单位演化的），这样只会显得很滑稽。

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在现行资本主义法律中定不了罪，但放几十年前或者是斯大林的苏联应该会被定罪。能否定罪要看依据什么法律

\n","createdAt":"2025-07-03 15:01:26.085742","updatedAt":"2025-07-03 15:01:26.085742","replyToPostNumber":67,"replyCount":2,"likeCount":1,"wordCount":49,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[{"reaction":"❤️","count":1,"users":[{"id":2877,"username":"Zerick","name":null}],"hasReacted":false}],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":7137,"username":"emu_otori","name":"鳳笑夢","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/0b/13/0b133abcd3dfadb90fdbf7583cfdc31ec56db3dbd063fce95dbe0f09296b527a.avif","admin":false,"moderator":true,"signatureRaw":null,"signatureCooked":null}},{"id":59376,"postNumber":72,"raw":"能定罪的只有自然界的 filter，目前最好的基因是人类，最好的模因是无知之幕原则下的立法 + 自由市场","cooked":"

能定罪的只有自然界的 filter，目前最好的基因是人类，最好的模因是无知之幕原则下的立法 + 自由市场

\n","createdAt":"2025-07-03 15:02:43.313081","updatedAt":"2025-07-03 15:02:43.313081","replyToPostNumber":71,"replyCount":0,"likeCount":0,"wordCount":43,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":4668,"username":"IO","name":null,"avatarUrl":null,"admin":true,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":"","signatureCooked":null}},{"id":59378,"postNumber":73,"raw":"“把你最需要的内容推给你”的推荐算法是好的，把“你最会上瘾的内容推给你”的推荐算法是坏的","cooked":"

“把你最需要的内容推给你”的推荐算法是好的，把“你最会上瘾的内容推给你”的推荐算法是坏的

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放在历史某时某地穆斯林，整个楼的人都因为服装等原因有罪，他们为什么不来给我定罪呢，因为自然界宣判有罪的是他们

\n","createdAt":"2025-07-03 15:04:57.888854","updatedAt":"2025-07-03 15:04:57.888854","replyToPostNumber":71,"replyCount":2,"likeCount":0,"wordCount":54,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":4668,"username":"IO","name":null,"avatarUrl":null,"admin":true,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":"","signatureCooked":null}},{"id":59380,"postNumber":75,"raw":"[quote=\"鳳笑夢，post:73, topic:14852, username:emu_otori\"]\n最需要的内容\n[/quote]\n\n那么什么是最需要的内容呢？你知道我需要什么吗？只有我自己自由选择才知道，我可以选择推荐算法，也可以选择传统算法，甚至不需要什么算法，如果真有这种需要（需求），你可以创一家新公司，大家都会用，你也会盈利","cooked":"

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最需要的内容
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那么什么是最需要的内容呢？你知道我需要什么吗？只有我自己自由选择才知道，我可以选择推荐算法，也可以选择传统算法，甚至不需要什么算法，如果真有这种需要（需求），你可以创一家新公司，大家都会用，你也会盈利

\n","createdAt":"2025-07-03 15:06:19.71839","updatedAt":"2025-07-03 15:06:19.71839","replyToPostNumber":73,"replyCount":1,"likeCount":0,"wordCount":113,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":4668,"username":"IO","name":null,"avatarUrl":null,"admin":true,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":"","signatureCooked":null}},{"id":59381,"postNumber":76,"raw":"人类制造了这么多物种灭绝，人类是你的“自然之神”派来宣判的天使吗\n\n[quote=\"shared_user, post:74, topic:14852, username:anonymous_coward\"]\n放在历史某时某地穆斯林\n[/quote]\n\n不知道是指什么事件，但每部法律有它的约束范围，通常是地理上的国家边界。你在美国穿比基尼就无罪，在阿富汗穿就有罪。","cooked":"

人类制造了这么多物种灭绝，人类是你的“自然之神”派来宣判的天使吗

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放在历史某时某地穆斯林
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不知道是指什么事件，但每部法律有它的约束范围，通常是地理上的国家边界。你在美国穿比基尼就无罪，在阿富汗穿就有罪。

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我没有宣判什么，只是描述发生了什么。好笑的是，你对灭绝物种的缅怀建立在人类没被其他物种灭绝的基础上。

\n","createdAt":"2025-07-03 15:09:27.093546","updatedAt":"2025-07-03 15:09:27.093546","replyToPostNumber":76,"replyCount":1,"likeCount":0,"wordCount":50,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":4668,"username":"IO","name":null,"avatarUrl":null,"admin":true,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":"","signatureCooked":null}},{"id":59384,"postNumber":78,"raw":"我理解 m0 所说的千古罪人是一种人内心的价值判断，在 corperate greed 操控立法和执行 branch 的社会，或者某种根本不存在法治的社会，什么法律审判都是狗屁。\n\n每个人的价值判断就是每个人的真理。\n\n公司为了赚钱用短视频降公众智，对没有改变能力的公众来说是邪恶的，所以全部 :gun:是合理的","cooked":"

我理解 m0 所说的千古罪人是一种人内心的价值判断，在 corperate greed 操控立法和执行 branch 的社会，或者某种根本不存在法治的社会，什么法律审判都是狗屁。

每个人的价值判断就是每个人的真理。

公司为了赚钱用短视频降公众智，对没有改变能力的公众来说是邪恶的，所以全部 🔫是合理的

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人类干的事虽然很危险，但并没有一个自然之神来宣判，要灭绝也不是被其他生物灭绝的

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自然之神
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这里指的是物理法则

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⚠️
\n温馨提醒：歪楼了 🥺

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