{"topic":{"id":6776,"title":"手机信息交流楼","slug":"topic","userId":1729,"categoryId":10,"createdAt":"2023-10-27 02:00:04.348334","bumpedAt":"2025-06-08 04:49:51.218965","views":1090,"postsCount":35,"highestPostNumber":35,"likeCount":47,"closed":false,"pinned":false,"pinnedGlobally":false,"pinnedAt":null,"pinnedUntil":null,"isBanner":false,"excerpt":"如题欢迎大家来此楼聊手机！我也可以帮助大家解决一些手机选购相关的疑惑！","deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"isPrivate":false,"isMembersOnly":false,"category":{"id":10,"name":"游戏 / 娱乐","slug":"play","color":"ED207B"},"author":{"id":1729,"username":"LR989","name":"Reicigo Laureate","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/4a/fd/4afd2ad968708aeefba769d81264c20a5a70cae51941c58c30106156cf5701b4.avif"},"realAuthor":{"id":1729,"username":"LR989","name":"Reicigo Laureate","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/4a/fd/4afd2ad968708aeefba769d81264c20a5a70cae51941c58c30106156cf5701b4.avif"},"tags":[]},"posts":[{"id":14910,"postNumber":1,"raw":"如题\n欢迎大家来此楼聊手机！\n我也可以帮助大家解决一些手机选购相关的疑惑！","cooked":"

如题
\n欢迎大家来此楼聊手机！
\n我也可以帮助大家解决一些手机选购相关的疑惑！

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如何购买 pixel

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你这问题倒真把我问倒了。
\n我去水源社区手机楼问问。

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主要用途：工作机，拍照\\打电话\\钉钉\\微信，不打手游
\n喜欢早些年 LG.三星和京瓷的直板翻盖，但是现在基本上没地方买了，而且也不知道是否适配现在的软件。

楼主是否有这方面的使用感想和相关的购买推荐呢，谢谢！

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pixel 上淘宝，价格最低。Amazon 上面也有，贵一点。或者直接肉身去 HK。

不过 pixel 这几代都不照，指纹识别是光学摄像头，验证的时候刺眼睛。处理器性能和能效比一般，基本是 Samsung Exynos 换皮，三星工艺不如 TSMC。

pixel 唯一好处是不用担心 big brother 了。三星手机都是一堆国产软件服务，哪怕是港版都根据你的 sim 锁定软件商店区域。

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这种机子确实最近不在出。。。都是折叠翻盖
\n我是在 888 的时期入的机圈，数码知识基本仅限于 835 以后，所以不太懂...

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一个个把手机造这么大，手未免太宽了些，想找个小点的都不容易。

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手机小了续航是个问题，现代手机承担的任务太多了

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翻盖手机大概真的被扫进历史了，可能诺基亚夏普还有些在产的机型。但功能上钉钉和微信应该是不行的，这些机子的安卓版本已经隔得太久了。只能说试试折叠屏了

\n","createdAt":"2023-10-27 16:32:58.141012","updatedAt":"2023-10-27 16:32:58.141012","replyToPostNumber":4,"replyCount":0,"likeCount":0,"wordCount":73,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":1303,"username":"ddf4142","name":"学猹","avatarUrl":null,"admin":false,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":null,"signatureCooked":null}},{"id":15135,"postNumber":10,"raw":"还是软件功耗控制的不够好，太臃肿了。电池上怕是难有突破了","cooked":"

还是软件功耗控制的不够好，太臃肿了。电池上怕是难有突破了

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首批 iPhone 15 Pro Max，感觉充电发热有点严重，电池容量还好，之前没用过 Pro Max，不知道是不是 12 以来都是这样。

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没办法，苹果都放弃 mini 了。也就小米还有小屏的了，但是吧……竖折叠或许可以，但是折叠技术说实话还是玩具阶段

\n","createdAt":"2023-10-27 16:43:28.58468","updatedAt":"2023-10-27 16:43:28.58468","replyToPostNumber":7,"replyCount":0,"likeCount":0,"wordCount":50,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":1303,"username":"ddf4142","name":"学猹","avatarUrl":null,"admin":false,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":null,"signatureCooked":null}},{"id":15138,"postNumber":13,"raw":"充电发热挺正常的吧，所以一般都不边充边玩（除非是红魔）。可以去售后看一看","cooked":"

充电发热挺正常的吧，所以一般都不边充边玩（除非是红魔）。可以去售后看一看

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\n $\"anonymous_coward_old\"$ \n anonymous_coward_old — #1 in Android 手机槽点汇总\n

我华为、小米、VIVO(+IQOO)、OPPO(+OnePlus+Realme)、SONY、Samsung、Moto(rola) / Lenovo 全都用过一遍，没有一个手机省心。（17 年之前还用过三星，那时还是 Android 4.0，由于太久远了这里不说）

这里的吐槽侧重于软件和用户界面。由于半导体的发展，现在 1k 的机子都不会出现什么卡顿，该有的基本硬件配置也都有。

通病

Android 系统版本越高越烂。例如：

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v13 把媒体播放放到了右上角的小板块里，以前的音乐播放软件的通知栏是占据屏幕的整个宽度的，现在相当于 App 无法自定义通知栏的控制按钮和显示的信息。
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加了越来越多的无效用户权限控制
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- 国产手机视隐私如至宝，然而当婊子还要立牌坊，每次系统重置、初次使用每个系统 app 时，提示你必须同意用户协议、隐私政策才能继续，然后系统提示你同意授权。
- 某些 /sdcard/或/storage/emulated/0 下的目录，竟然不给用户访问权限？？不说访问，连删除都不行？？
- 我用 adb-sync 同步文件时提示我/sdcard/Android/data/com.tencent.mobileqq/Tencent/QQfile_recv/.TbsReaderTempcom.tencent.mobileqq/: Permission denied，我用理论上拥有 root 权限的系统自带文件管理系统访问该目录竟然提示我打开google files App 才能访问，然后打开后者以后依然无法访问。
- adb shell pm list packages -f竟然提示我java.lang.SecurityException: Shell does not have permission to access user 10。连用 adb 查看当前系统安装了哪些 App 都没有权限？？Android 越做越烂，v13 简直是傻逼。
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每隔 3 天提示我输入一次密码，理由是怕我忘记密码，把用户当傻逼。
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有国产手机厂商的助力，Android 更烂，看看现在手机的广告就知道了，全靠吹牛逼
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OPPO/一加/Realme

一加从创立开始就一直和 OPPO 共用生产线（硬件物料共用），21 年直接被 OPPO 归为子品牌，还有什么 realme 也是 OPPO 的。

OPPO 吹牛逼非常狠，经常搞点概念忽悠小白，例如什么“游戏云计算专网技术”。

恶心的“彩信”广告

系统软件基本没有广告/可关闭，但比较阴险的地方在于刚买来一两个月之内没有广告，但在这之后会在短信 App 里以类似彩信的方式显示广告，例如：

$\"ad\"$

OPPO 这样做的邪恶之处在于：

在短信应用里植入，使得用户很难避开，因为你没法把短信的通知给关掉，并且短信 app 经常要用。所以有时候通知来了，以为是短信，打开一看，竟然是恶心的系统广告，还是有极为恶心的游戏配图和文字。
由于广告是以类似彩信的形式展示的，从而可能会让用户误以为是游戏公司的垃圾信息，和 OPPO 无关。我一开始也被这么误导，但：\n
- 我在此该手机上使用的新注册的 oppo 账号，并且我没有在此手机上安装任何游戏。
- 我在此手机上安装的 sim 卡从未用于任何游戏账号，并且广告的信息只显示时间，不显示投递的 sim 卡，所以根本不是彩信
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OPPO 今年停掉了 Zekr 半导体业务，又这么龌龊地插入广告，看来是缺钱缺得厉害。

音量无法微调

安静的时候，使用一格音量听音乐声音太小，使用两格音量听音乐声音太大，只有 1 格半才正好。

然而，不论是系统音量功能（物理按键和软件调节滑块），还是用户 APP，都没有精细化调节音量的功能。竟然低音量区只有一格。

无法关闭的 apk 安装安全检查

就你一个垃圾 oppo 公司能测出来什么病毒木马？原生 Google 从来没这个障碍。

Android 的最大特色就是可以方便地安装自己的 apk，而不像 Apple 垄断了 app store，要成为开发者还要交钱。

然而你 oppo 每次都给我在那进度条转 5 秒钟，不给设置关，假如所谓的“检测出危险”，还需要输入密码/指纹才能继续安装，简直是 sb，而且连用命令行adb install都无法 bypass。

愚蠢的锁屏界面

光学指纹亮瞎眼，尤其是晚间，而且面积就一点点大，太靠下
自动亮屏，晚上稍微碰到手机就亮了。然而白天有时候抓起手机却没有及时亮屏，以至于我想按电源键亮屏时，本应该忽略，屏幕却熄灭了
从顶部往下划想要打开通知栏的按钮打开背面 LED，却提示我防误触生效。
如果没有按到指纹的位置\n
- 错向两侧划动，则进入锁屏画报界面，要想解锁需要关闭屏幕再打开。
- 错向上侧划动，则进入提示输入密码的界面，此时无法通过指纹解锁，需要再向上划一次
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锁屏界面的媒体播放控制：上一首、下一首、暂停按钮很小，经常要点好几次才能点中，而且次数点多了该媒体播放控制的通知框消失，提示你要指纹解锁。这个和媒体播放软件无法。

Tampered OS

SagerNet: Your proprietary equipment vender(usually surveillance cacpital giants and malware maker) tampered with your Android, making it unusable

小米

小米靠全行业性价比没有之一的最高起家的，但现在最大的问题就是忘记初心，连红米也没极致性价比了，而且最近几年主力 K 系列的镜头模块设计巨丑无比。

可能是国产 Android 中极少提供官方解锁 Bootloader 的厂家（还有 realme），可以 root，刷 ROM，但每台机器都需要等待2 周才能解，可以说连对玩机爱好者都不友好了。

好多人说 MIUI 好用，如果自己的 XX 手机也能刷 MIUI 就好了。然而我觉得它很烂，廉价机广告多。

深入使用，会发现一些不易察觉的问题：

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系统重置并非真正的重置
\n何以见得？重置之后，按理说应该没有任何上一次系统的信息，但重启只有系统提示你登陆小米账号，进行系统软件恢复，该通知无法关闭，并且每次重启都会出现。我嫌烦，恢复了一下，恢复了哪些牛鬼蛇神呢？
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- 游戏中心
- 小米有品
- 多看（视频）
- 计算器
- ...
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要启用 adb 安装软件，必须登陆小米账号并插入 SIM 卡，然而比较搞笑的是被注销的卡竟然也能用。不像 oppo，小米可以关掉安装 apk 时的 5 秒钟安全检查，但小米开启 adb 调试里的功能需要你一步步地阅读并等待 5-10s，也挺智障的，我 tm 都点击版本号 10 余次解锁了隐藏的开发者选项菜单，并从层层菜单导航到此，还需要听你哔哔歪歪，就几个字还要等待 5s，简直是吃了屎了。
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xiaomi.eu 是一家充满未知后门的 ROM
\n很多人推荐小米手机刷 https://xiaomi.eu/ 的 ROM，说什么纯净、广告少、欧盟隐私标准、小米欧洲经销商推荐认证什么的，但经过我的简单了解，这家完全就是一个黑箱。
\n像 LineageOS，基于 AOSP 并开源，意味着每个人都能下载源码自己编译。但 xiaomi.eu 这家全是二进制 ROM，说是基于官方的 international version，去除了广告组建得来，实际上可能充满了后门，被当作肉鸡都是小事，现在短信/OTP 这种第二因素认证基本都要用手机，刷这个系统小心银行卡里的钱被刷光、照片隐私被泄露。虽然他们现在没有出事的报道，不代表就安全。
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华为

抛开“爱国”的意识形态层面不说，我个人觉得几年前的华为手机（Mate 10 Pro）的体验还不错，有些功能很方便，例如背面指纹用食指轻松勾下通知栏，锁屏状态按两下音量 - 按键直接打开相机自动拍照。

后来，众所周知，升级到了哄蒙系统，广告有增无减，可以想见，在 A 国制裁下比 oppo 更缺钱。我也就没用了。

VIVO/IQOO

用的二手，没用多久，早些年的手机广告也多，最近几年新机没用过，不做评价。

SONY

SONY 最大的问题就是贵。我用的二手 Xperia XZ Premium，虽然 SoC 仅仅是 Snapdragon 835，但只要不碰国产软件就不存在卡顿。系统非 100% 原生，但没有国产的乌烟瘴气。侧边指纹很爽，比屏下光学指纹好。不用担心平时会给你拍照。长按 home 键调出 Google Assistant，但无法用Hey Google唤醒。

Samsung

Samsungs 不是中国公司，手机组装也在 Vietnam 进行，全球市场占有率也挺高。中国市场有特供版国行系统，有大量国内软件服务的耦合，例如什么腾讯/猎豹安全扫描，百度提供的文字识别，特供版 App store，国行不支持 Hey Google，甚至据说港行版插入大陆 SIM 后 Samsung Account 会自动退出要求大陆手机号登陆，App Store 自动变成国区的。
\n不过基本的用户体验算是使用定制版 Android 的手机中顶级的了，有很多方便的设计和功能：

经过设置，通知栏可以一次下拉即可显示亮度调节 slider
指纹识别用的是屏下超声波，面积大，识别率非常高，不挑干湿。锁屏界面在提示指纹验证的同时也显示数字输入界面，不像一些国产手机需要再滑动一次切换验证方式。
官方应用 Sound Assistant，可以长按音量键切歌，非常非常方便的功能。

Moto(rola) / Lenovo

Moto 每年都出 Snapdragon 旗舰 SoC 手机，主打性价比以及最喜欢和小米抢 SoC~~初夜权~~首发。系统有一些 Moto 特色功能，例如可设置摇晃手机打开摄像头 LED 手电筒，长按音量键切歌。和 Samsung 一样，旗舰机 USB 都是 3.0 的速率。

总结

尽管 Android 再烂，~~我也不用垄断 iOS~~ 甚至 Google 亲自做的 Pixel 7 经过亲测都十分烂，有机会是得换换了。AAPL 公司市值竟然比英国全国股票市值还高。苹果靠 Steve Jobs 打的江山会慢慢地坐吃山空。

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SONY
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SONY 最大的问题就是贵。我用的二手 Xperia XZ Premium，虽然 SoC 仅仅是 Snapdragon 835，但只要不碰国产软件就不存在卡顿。系统非 100% 原生，但没有国产的乌烟瘴气。侧边指纹很爽，比屏下光学指纹好。不用担心平时会给你拍照。长按 home 键调出 Google Assistant，但无法用Hey Google唤醒。
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大法的东西质量确实可靠，我有一台 2010 年生产的卡片相机，除了买了块第三方电池，到今天还用得好好的

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嗯呢虽然贵按使用时长平均下来性价比还挺高的
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虽然一直讨厌索索卖这么贵但是买不起是我的缺点不是他的 🤑不像有些品牌，旗舰机老贵，结果科技树全点爱国上了 😇

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xjtuer 能不能注册水源账户啊

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您好，不能捏。

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水源社区，域名为 shuiyuan.sjtu.edu.cn，是上海交通大学现有网络论坛，主要为上海交通大学师生及校友提供网上交流空间。
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顶一下！

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蹲个便宜耐造的工作机

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预算多少

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2000 左右吧可以上下浮动最好不超过 2500

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提问模板（不清楚参数可以填原手机给你的感觉）
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预算（有多少钱办多大事）
\n要求“xx 以内”的话一般会考虑贴着预算上限
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分项要求（不提的项目默认没有要求），如影像要求，性能/游戏（基本说玩啥就行），续航需求等
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质感需求，如屏幕形态（直屏/曲面/四边微曲等），尺寸（6.1-6.7 之类），重量（***g）
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存储容量（如 12+256,16+512 等，苹果一般不在考虑范围内）
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原手机型号或生态（在考虑以上点后酌情兼顾，考虑系统适应和数据迁移等成本）
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以上条目未列出的其他特殊需求：
\n如：1.刚需护眼屏幕
\n2.对品牌有要求，如体制内（隐性）要求国产手机（:huawei:）、出国留学/使用外版软件等需求（ ✨️ :apple_inc:）
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扔个模版（

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以下是水源上的推荐 w 可以参考

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1K5：红米 Turbo 4 Pro（比 Turbo 4 更优秀），真我 GT6，荣耀 GT（喜欢老华为荣耀的可以买，续航略弱于竞品但这价格是真的香），iQOO Z10 Turbo（高性能长续航），红米 K80（2K 屏幕长续航），荣耀 Power（性能较差，续航极长，无红外）
\n2K：一加 Ace 5 Pro（旗舰性能长续航），iQOO Neo10 Pro（旗舰性能长续航）一加 Ace 5 至尊版（旗舰性能长续航）
\n2K5：OPPO Find X8（全能旗舰），vivo X200（全能旗舰），一加 13T（小屏性能机），红米 K80 Pro（全能旗舰），iQOO Neo10 Pro+（升级点主要在超大电池和 2K 屏幕）
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nice 非常好的模板

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预算：2~2.3k
有续航；
无质感要求，尺寸 6.7 或更大一点
存储容量 256G 即可
无需考虑原型号，仅用于工作。

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这几款都是符合需求的（叠券 + 国补下单）

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2K：一加 Ace 5 Pro（旗舰性能长续航），iQOO Neo10 Pro（旗舰性能长续航）一加 Ace 5 至尊版（旗舰性能长续航）
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我主力机是红米的这两个厂商没什么了解蹲 @sJtupid

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感恩

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一加是 OPPO 子品牌，iQOO 是 vivo 子品牌

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补一个 k80p，配置好一些

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在国补 + 以旧换新的情况下，4000 的小米 15sp 有性价比吗

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why not 米 15pro？

你的需求是啥

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提问模板（不清楚参数可以填原手机给你的感觉）
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预算（有多少钱办多大事）
\n要求“xx 以内”的话一般会考虑贴着预算上限
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分项要求（不提的项目默认没有要求），如影像要求，性能/游戏（基本说玩啥就行），续航需求等
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质感需求，如屏幕形态（直屏/曲面/四边微曲等），尺寸（6.1-6.7 之类），重量（***g）
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存储容量（如 12+256,16+512 等，苹果一般不在考虑范围内）
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原手机型号或生态（在考虑以上点后酌情兼顾，考虑系统适应和数据迁移等成本）
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以上条目未列出的其他特殊需求：
\n如：1.刚需护眼屏幕
\n2.对品牌有要求，如体制内（隐性）要求国产手机（:huawei:）、出国留学/使用外版软件等需求（ ✨️ :apple_inc:）
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确实看了点对比感觉 mi15pro 稍好一点
\n预算 4k
\n性能：原神
\n重量最好 220- 手感好一点
\n有摄影需求
\n因为用习惯了比较喜欢小米

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15pro 之前有好价，现在 16+512 好像涨回去了

不确定，建议再看看，之前有三千五六的 16 512

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