{"topic":{"id":5748,"title":"关于在西交学数学","slug":"topic","userId":1294,"categoryId":54,"createdAt":"2023-09-21 05:15:26.114532","bumpedAt":"2024-01-22 12:50:39.269225","views":1572,"postsCount":28,"highestPostNumber":29,"likeCount":46,"closed":false,"pinned":false,"pinnedGlobally":false,"pinnedAt":null,"pinnedUntil":null,"isBanner":false,"excerpt":"声明：需要指出的是，虽然我一直局限在谈数学，但对很多其他专业来说应该都有一定程度的参考意义，只不过即使有参考意义也需要做一些相应转化，而我不甚了解其他专业的情况，所以很难说需要做哪些适应性调整，故而不谈。开此贴，是想简要梳理一下，如果未来想从事数学科研的话，如何尽可能在西交这样纯数老师较少的环境下，尽量为自己打好基础、少走弯路。或许顺便也可以促进一下西交的数学壬抱团取暖，相互鼓励前行。","deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"isPrivate":false,"isMembersOnly":false,"category":{"id":54,"name":"学术专区","slug":"academic","color":"9EB83B"},"author":{"id":1294,"username":"walker","name":"稻年","avatarUrl":null},"realAuthor":{"id":1294,"username":"walker","name":"稻年","avatarUrl":null},"tags":["math"]},"posts":[{"id":11526,"postNumber":1,"raw":"> 声明：需要指出的是，虽然我一直局限在谈数学，但对很多其他专业来说应该都有一定程度的参考意义，只不过即使有参考意义也需要做一些相应转化，而我不甚了解其他专业的情况，所以很难说需要做哪些适应性调整，故而不谈。\n\n开此贴，是想简要梳理一下，如果未来想从事数学科研的话，如何尽可能在西交这样纯数老师较少的环境下，尽量为自己打好基础、少走弯路。\n\n或许顺便也可以促进一下西交的数学壬抱团取暖，相互鼓励前行。","cooked":"

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声明：需要指出的是，虽然我一直局限在谈数学，但对很多其他专业来说应该都有一定程度的参考意义，只不过即使有参考意义也需要做一些相应转化，而我不甚了解其他专业的情况，所以很难说需要做哪些适应性调整，故而不谈。
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开此贴，是想简要梳理一下，如果未来想从事数学科研的话，如何尽可能在西交这样纯数老师较少的环境下，尽量为自己打好基础、少走弯路。

或许顺便也可以促进一下西交的数学壬抱团取暖，相互鼓励前行。

\n","createdAt":"2023-09-21 05:15:26.294905","updatedAt":"2023-10-05 10:41:01.418704","replyToPostNumber":null,"replyCount":0,"likeCount":8,"wordCount":195,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[{"reaction":"❤️","count":8,"users":[{"id":307,"username":"Fast","name":null},{"id":346,"username":"hoist","name":null},{"id":464,"username":"wxystudio","name":"studio"},{"id":1047,"username":"anonymous_coward_old","name":"Anonymous Coward Old"},{"id":1147,"username":"half-poem","name":"half-poem"},{"id":1381,"username":"greyishsong","name":"greyishsong"},{"id":1405,"username":"Caspian","name":null},{"id":6205,"username":"uika_winwing","name":null}],"hasReacted":false}],"wiki":false,"version":3,"publicVersion":3,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":1294,"username":"walker","name":"稻年","avatarUrl":null,"admin":false,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":null,"signatureCooked":null}},{"id":11527,"postNumber":2,"raw":"\n> 声明：不可避免会有很多主观的成分，只能说尽量保持客观公正。\n\n首先就是西交的数学定位。据我的观察和了解，西交的数学虽然在教育部学科评估中拿到了为数不多的 A，但主要贡献应该是应数，而非纯数。所以根据这一结果可以得到一个简单的推论，西交的应数强于纯数。\n\n事实上，西交作为一个传统的工科强校，数学系应该是长期和工科各专业有合作的，我没有做任何实质性考证，但根据我本科期间上课时，一些任课老师在上课时闲谈提到的内容来看，至少是有实例支撑的。\n\n加上长期听说系里的机器学习、生物数学、地震等方面的数学研究水平很高，所以学习应数应该不会有太大的障碍。此外我对应数接触的也不多，所以我会限制在纯数方面。欢迎了解应数的朋友补充，或另开新帖详细介绍。\n\n回到定位。其实一个很简单的事实就可以看出西交的数学存在非常大的问题，开不出什么研究生课，或者说鼓励本科生上的研究生课。例如偏代数的代数拓扑、交换代数、同调代数、代数曲线和黎曼面这些基础课都是没有的，但国内除了北大清华这种公认的数学强校外，其实有不少学校都是开得出来的，我知道的就有复旦、中科大、浙大、华东师大、南方科大、首都师大、北航等等（排名不分先后）。\n\n也就是说，单纯从本科教学来说，西交的数学别说 C9 了，即使连一些数学见长的 211 学校都比不上（当然是极个别）。像上面提到的这些课程，西交的学生如果想学基本都是靠办讨论班自学。\n\n简单来说，如果是按部就班地跟着培养方案来学习，毕业时了解的数学基本上还停留在 19 世纪的数学，离现代数学非常遥远，对未来选择偏代数、几何方向的学习、科研造成很大障碍，这是我们要明确的内容。\n\n虽然我大一时就听学长提到过这些内容，而且系里的老师也常提起第一届数试某位后来去了普林斯顿的学长的故事——大三还是什么时候意识到系里的代数课很少，便申请去北大旁听了一年，系里还给予支持。但当时并没有太往心里去，所以导致没有意识到问题的严重性，结果就是后面需要花大量的时间来补相关方面的知识，非常耽误进度。","cooked":"

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声明：不可避免会有很多主观的成分，只能说尽量保持客观公正。
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首先就是西交的数学定位。据我的观察和了解，西交的数学虽然在教育部学科评估中拿到了为数不多的 A，但主要贡献应该是应数，而非纯数。所以根据这一结果可以得到一个简单的推论，西交的应数强于纯数。

事实上，西交作为一个传统的工科强校，数学系应该是长期和工科各专业有合作的，我没有做任何实质性考证，但根据我本科期间上课时，一些任课老师在上课时闲谈提到的内容来看，至少是有实例支撑的。

加上长期听说系里的机器学习、生物数学、地震等方面的数学研究水平很高，所以学习应数应该不会有太大的障碍。此外我对应数接触的也不多，所以我会限制在纯数方面。欢迎了解应数的朋友补充，或另开新帖详细介绍。

回到定位。其实一个很简单的事实就可以看出西交的数学存在非常大的问题，开不出什么研究生课，或者说鼓励本科生上的研究生课。例如偏代数的代数拓扑、交换代数、同调代数、代数曲线和黎曼面这些基础课都是没有的，但国内除了北大清华这种公认的数学强校外，其实有不少学校都是开得出来的，我知道的就有复旦、中科大、浙大、华东师大、南方科大、首都师大、北航等等（排名不分先后）。

也就是说，单纯从本科教学来说，西交的数学别说 C9 了，即使连一些数学见长的 211 学校都比不上（当然是极个别）。像上面提到的这些课程，西交的学生如果想学基本都是靠办讨论班自学。

简单来说，如果是按部就班地跟着培养方案来学习，毕业时了解的数学基本上还停留在 19 世纪的数学，离现代数学非常遥远，对未来选择偏代数、几何方向的学习、科研造成很大障碍，这是我们要明确的内容。

虽然我大一时就听学长提到过这些内容，而且系里的老师也常提起第一届数试某位后来去了普林斯顿的学长的故事——大三还是什么时候意识到系里的代数课很少，便申请去北大旁听了一年，系里还给予支持。但当时并没有太往心里去，所以导致没有意识到问题的严重性，结果就是后面需要花大量的时间来补相关方面的知识，非常耽误进度。

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另外就是数试和普通班的区别对待问题，这个很遗憾，本人作为数试的既得利益者，确实也觉得多少有些不公平。但冷静来看，数试和普通班的最大区别，在于数试有一学期的全班公费出国交流机会，其余的所谓小班教学、科研训练等等内容，其实不会有太大区别，如果觉得确实有差异，也可以旁听，也可以联系老师做科研，事实上也不会有人拦着。

回到出国交流的问题，可以说这才是西交数试办得不错（个人觉得是很好）的精髓所在。如果不是出国交流期间选了一些研究生课，我根本体会不到上一楼提到的差距。另外从功利角度来说，出国交流带来的推荐信，才是重中之重。我和后来的学弟学妹也缺乏交流，不太清楚后来的情况。但就我那一级的情况来说，根据我后来在美国碰到的国内同学交流情况来看，基本上是仅次于清北，比不少所谓华五都强很多。

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第三点，跨年级的沟通交流。这一点是我和一个同学聊天时，他反复提到的。核心就是说，系里极度缺乏不同年级之间的学生相互交流的渠道，导致同样的问题，会一年一年地复现；同样的雷，每年都有新人继续踩；不知道学习路线应该是怎样的，结果就是在迷茫中虚度。

当时我也深感这一点，所以还尝试花了几天时间写了个数试学习生活指南，要邀请了班上 dalao 写了一些学习建议，后来这份指南似乎被钱院学辅接管，再后来似乎陆陆续续其他专业也有了类似的文档。

不过很可惜，目前来看这一点还是没有有效推进，这就是为什么我决定在这里发帖。例如当我偶尔冒出“如果我本科的时候就知道这些就好了”的想法时，我没有渠道说去传达给后来的学弟学妹。

其实写这些东西有些心血来潮，并没有很好地组织好。打算是后面联系一些认识的西交数学壬，分享一些经验和数学笔记，以本站作为联系的纽带，也能创造一个大家可以交流学习的平台，让大家能够更专注于学习数学本身，体会数学的美，更早更顺利地进入科研状态。通过这种论坛的形式，这些经验分享、交流学习都能有效地保存，方便后来的人查看。甚至也可以让一些想转数学专业，但又不是那么确定的同学，对数学专业有一些更具象的了解。（提这个是因为我知道西交这两年有个工科的同学，自学数学还拿了丘赛的金奖，我觉得像他这样喜欢数学的工科人应该还有不少，但像他这么有勇气坚持自学数学的人应该是少数，所以需要一些这样了解数学学习、科研是怎样情况的机会）

暂时就先这样，我还有些事，看情况周末再更。

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期待大佬组织交流，西交极其缺乏进行纯理论科研的人群和环境，我是做计算复杂度的，在西交找不到一个可以聊学术的人。。。

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不止是纯理论啦，大概只要不是最热门的方向都难免这样的 🤣

我做计算机图形学，这其实是很偏应用的领域了，但也一样没什么人可以讨论或者学习，只有读研之后能和同门聊学术。

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跟论文作者发邮件交流，找些人群发。
\n指望在胶带里面交流是不行的

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其实这和学科特性有关。数学的有些分支，在过去一个世纪有着大爆发式的发展，结果就是没有个三五年的有效训练，都无法进入二十一世纪，也就无从谈起做科研。要看论文的话，最可能的情况是，作者已经死了几十年了。

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今天稍微回顾了发此贴的初衷，越来越觉得在这里“专门讨论数学”甚至是尝试引流一帮人讨论数学，不是一个好主意。毕竟数学壬还是相对小众的一个群体，可能更适合小圈子交流。或许后面会考虑删除本帖，找个机会建立或者加入一个类似 mse 的站点。

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好！支持！

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唉，西交一届也没几个人搞纯数，你指望发帖立刻能引起热烈反响是不可能的。

就像你说的，西交从上到下的信息传递渠道很差。我本科的时候想找点人一起做感兴趣的事情，全年级都找不到志同道合的人，看别的学校申请的时候能互相帮忙改文书，找往届推荐，我想找点参考都难。

西交不缺 nb 的人，但是愿意分享信息的人不多，要是觉得没什么人关心就放弃了，那这个站，acm 小学期之类的也没什么存在的必要了，反正 99% 的人都会按学校的指挥去搞数学建模，刷 gpa，其他任何事情都是小众的，没人关心的。

不管你怎么想，我建议好好写写这篇文章放到通用指南里，说不定将来的某一天有个同学看到了，觉得能学到新的东西，也就不错了。

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清北复科下无数学

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北师大、华东师大、南科大也很好啊

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有无老东西在交大门上开一个数学吧当吧主？

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年月擦身过，暂且问，会更好吗？

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当吧主能保研吗

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保研和不保研在找工作上的区别是啥

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保研的可以吹牛，不过确实没什么用就是了

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每个月多拿 5k

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这么牛逼，那还是保研好

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学历都不一样，一些公司给的待遇肯定不一样

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