{"topic":{"id":4583,"title":"零基础如何读论文","slug":"topic","userId":425,"categoryId":4,"createdAt":"2023-07-28 12:19:48.996949","bumpedAt":"2023-07-28 13:06:32.549255","views":373,"postsCount":8,"highestPostNumber":8,"likeCount":1,"closed":false,"pinned":false,"pinnedGlobally":false,"pinnedAt":null,"pinnedUntil":null,"isBanner":false,"excerpt":"应要求读一些论文，但是对我零基础的来说实在是太难了。所以来问问到底怎么正确地读论文。论文中出现的每一个公式或者原理都要掌握来龙去脉吗？有些论文学科交叉的内容实在是太多了，从一个 reference 看到另一个 reference，然后再到 reference 里的 reference，无限套娃。但凡出现一个公式完全看不懂，东引一本书西引一本书，我还要需要去把书里的内容都学一遍吗？我感到非常的沮丧 😔和精疲力竭 😫，快想放弃了。我感…","deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"isPrivate":false,"isMembersOnly":false,"category":{"id":4,"name":"谈笑风生","slug":"general","color":"25AAE2"},"author":{"id":425,"username":"Ogiso_Setsuna","name":"小木曽雪菜","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/84/e3/84e328169491dbc81e9b54386b259ed63a8e6678875dcf17803ec69c4c25cb99.avif"},"realAuthor":{"id":425,"username":"Ogiso_Setsuna","name":"小木曽雪菜","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/84/e3/84e328169491dbc81e9b54386b259ed63a8e6678875dcf17803ec69c4c25cb99.avif"},"tags":["suicide"]},"posts":[{"id":8165,"postNumber":1,"raw":"应要求读一些论文，但是对我零基础的来说实在是太难了。所以来问问到底怎么正确地读论文。\n论文中出现的每一个公式或者原理都要掌握来龙去脉吗？有些论文学科交叉的内容实在是太多了，从一个 reference 看到另一个 reference，然后再到 reference 里的 reference，无限套娃。但凡出现一个公式完全看不懂，东引一本书西引一本书，我还要需要去把书里的内容都学一遍吗？我感到非常的沮丧 :pensive:和精疲力竭 :tired:，快想放弃了。我感觉我只有两条狗的智商，好想紫砂。到底该怎样正确地读论文？","cooked":"

应要求读一些论文，但是对我零基础的来说实在是太难了。所以来问问到底怎么正确地读论文。
\n论文中出现的每一个公式或者原理都要掌握来龙去脉吗？有些论文学科交叉的内容实在是太多了，从一个 reference 看到另一个 reference，然后再到 reference 里的 reference，无限套娃。但凡出现一个公式完全看不懂，东引一本书西引一本书，我还要需要去把书里的内容都学一遍吗？我感到非常的沮丧 😔和精疲力竭 😫，快想放弃了。我感觉我只有两条狗的智商，好想紫砂。到底该怎样正确地读论文？

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肯定不能“去把书里的内容都学一遍”。带着目的去读：问自己问什么要读这篇论文？想要获得什么？（不同时候的目的不一样，比如第一遍的时候侧重于相比于现有研究的关键创新，想复现时侧重文章里的实现和实验部分）

我有时候感觉论文里关键思想可以很简练（短短一句话），但是为了呈现她的方法的好处，必须要说背景、与相关研究的关系和好处，以及工程实现方法（算法/框架）、并做大量的实验与现有方法的结果比较。

有些引用的方法，名称看似很高级，好像我要弄懂它 dei 完整地读另外的文章/书本章节，但是实际上可能并不难，或者在本论文工作中并不是核心（可能是 trick 或者锦上添花的东西）。

有时候某个领域的文章看多了，会发现越看越容易懂，很多是 incremental improvement。早期看会学习不少领域基础知识，这些在看后面的论文时也可能遇到。

现在流行 conference 的 paper 作者有配套的介绍视频和 slides 或者网站，也许比 paper 好懂。

ReadPaper.pdf|attachment (9.5 KB) （https://www.eecs.harvard.edu/~michaelm/postscripts/ReadPaper.pdf）

HowtoReadPaper.pdf|attachment (72.7 KB)

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how to read \"How to Read a Paper\" 😀

\n","createdAt":"2023-07-28 12:23:15.860397","updatedAt":"2023-07-28 12:23:15.860397","replyToPostNumber":2,"replyCount":1,"likeCount":0,"wordCount":9,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":964,"username":"aikedaer","name":"aikedaer","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/fa/fa/fafa2a0e6422ac9c1d7b17984a92dc9112d8352aa3f942ab99b35e356c47bf22.avif","admin":false,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":null,"signatureCooked":null}},{"id":8169,"postNumber":4,"raw":"不同学科差的太多了，有些学科确实需要学习极大量的基础知识才能开始科研（比如数学），不然从第一句话就看不懂了。\n多数工科可以从一篇最经典的开始读，这种论文一般都写在教科书里了，后人的解读有很多。","cooked":"

不同学科差的太多了，有些学科确实需要学习极大量的基础知识才能开始科研（比如数学），不然从第一句话就看不懂了。
\n多数工科可以从一篇最经典的开始读，这种论文一般都写在教科书里了，后人的解读有很多。

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This is definitely a meta-learning problem in which you learn to learn.

\n","createdAt":"2023-07-28 12:38:29.470822","updatedAt":"2024-03-17 13:05:02.091557","replyToPostNumber":3,"replyCount":0,"likeCount":0,"wordCount":12,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[],"wiki":false,"version":2,"publicVersion":2,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":1047,"username":"anonymous_coward_old","name":"Anonymous Coward Old","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/43/32/4332638c11248b8ff07033c11de0759a55205facfbec85e14458245a91991faf.avif","admin":false,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":null,"signatureCooked":null}},{"id":8175,"postNumber":6,"raw":"举个例子，我正在看 computer vision 领域的内容，但是我读的论文实现的方法并不是 image-based，而是类似于动作捕捉。论文对使用的神经网络的框架只是简单一提，而大多数篇幅都在论述物理约束之类的，而我对 rigid body dynamics algorithm 相关内容没有任何了解。我是否应该先去系统学习这一基础知识？","cooked":"

举个例子，我正在看 computer vision 领域的内容，但是我读的论文实现的方法并不是 image-based，而是类似于动作捕捉。论文对使用的神经网络的框架只是简单一提，而大多数篇幅都在论述物理约束之类的，而我对 rigid body dynamics algorithm 相关内容没有任何了解。我是否应该先去系统学习这一基础知识？

\n","createdAt":"2023-07-28 12:49:58.107056","updatedAt":"2023-07-28 12:49:58.107056","replyToPostNumber":2,"replyCount":2,"likeCount":0,"wordCount":117,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":425,"username":"Ogiso_Setsuna","name":"小木曽雪菜","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/84/e3/84e328169491dbc81e9b54386b259ed63a8e6678875dcf17803ec69c4c25cb99.avif","admin":false,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":null,"signatureCooked":null}},{"id":8176,"postNumber":7,"raw":"那肯定要学基础知识啦，否则等于门都没摸着","cooked":"

那肯定要学基础知识啦，否则等于门都没摸着

\n","createdAt":"2023-07-28 12:51:47.580253","updatedAt":"2024-03-17 13:05:02.171491","replyToPostNumber":6,"replyCount":0,"likeCount":0,"wordCount":20,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":1047,"username":"anonymous_coward_old","name":"Anonymous Coward Old","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/43/32/4332638c11248b8ff07033c11de0759a55205facfbec85e14458245a91991faf.avif","admin":false,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":null,"signatureCooked":null}},{"id":8178,"postNumber":8,"raw":"那经典论文网上解读就有很多了，我感觉慢慢看问题不大，看懂最开始的那篇，后面的就顺理成章了","cooked":"

那经典论文网上解读就有很多了，我感觉慢慢看问题不大，看懂最开始的那篇，后面的就顺理成章了

\n","createdAt":"2023-07-28 13:06:32.549255","updatedAt":"2023-07-28 13:06:32.549255","replyToPostNumber":6,"replyCount":0,"likeCount":0,"wordCount":44,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":464,"username":"wxystudio","name":"studio","avatarUrl":null,"admin":false,"moderator":true,"signatureRaw":null,"signatureCooked":null}}],"hasMore":false,"lastReadPostNumber":3,"hasUrlPostNumber":true}