{"topic":{"id":1749,"title":"各位觉得自己在交大学习的意义是什么？","slug":"topic","userId":354,"categoryId":14,"createdAt":"2023-07-08 08:09:13.907627","bumpedAt":"2023-12-30 18:17:33.968458","views":2616,"postsCount":34,"highestPostNumber":34,"likeCount":45,"closed":false,"pinned":false,"pinnedGlobally":false,"pinnedAt":null,"pinnedUntil":null,"isBanner":false,"excerpt":"如题，在交大虚度两年时光的我完全答不出这个问题。颓废两年，专业分的稀烂，本事一点没学到，精神状态身体健康生活作息一律崩溃。看着舍友们卷，看着别人竞赛、做项目、和导师畅谈……我不知道我来交大到底是干什么的了。既没有学习开卷的动力，也没有改变现状的决心，只是每天在浪费时间。所以想问问各位，在交大收获了什么，学到了什么，对你的人生带来了什么意义……我真的想看看，正常的大学生活到底该是什么样子。","deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"isPrivate":false,"isMembersOnly":false,"category":{"id":14,"name":"问答","slug":"qa","color":"f5c211"},"author":{"id":354,"username":"Undersanity","name":"邓瑞烨","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/dc/89/dc89eaa5f564e2c53c0b453cd3d0b5c3c47454c0cfaa30fabbc13fe9d000d66e.avif"},"realAuthor":{"id":354,"username":"Undersanity","name":"邓瑞烨","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/dc/89/dc89eaa5f564e2c53c0b453cd3d0b5c3c47454c0cfaa30fabbc13fe9d000d66e.avif"},"tags":["experience"]},"posts":[{"id":4200,"postNumber":1,"raw":"如题，在交大虚度两年时光的我完全答不出这个问题。颓废两年，专业分的稀烂，本事一点没学到，精神状态身体健康生活作息一律崩溃。看着舍友们卷，看着别人竞赛、做项目、和导师畅谈……我不知道我来交大到底是干什么的了。既没有学习开卷的动力，也没有改变现状的决心，只是每天在浪费时间。\n所以想问问各位，在交大收获了什么，学到了什么，对你的人生带来了什么意义……我真的想看看，正常的大学生活到底该是什么样子。","cooked":"

如题，在交大虚度两年时光的我完全答不出这个问题。颓废两年，专业分的稀烂，本事一点没学到，精神状态身体健康生活作息一律崩溃。看着舍友们卷，看着别人竞赛、做项目、和导师畅谈……我不知道我来交大到底是干什么的了。既没有学习开卷的动力，也没有改变现状的决心，只是每天在浪费时间。
\n所以想问问各位，在交大收获了什么，学到了什么，对你的人生带来了什么意义……我真的想看看，正常的大学生活到底该是什么样子。

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\n我曾幻想存在一种光谱可以度量所有人的大学生活，但我现在认为它不应该存在。\n### 人生是旷野而非轨道\n
\n在来交大前，我的世界只有第一种人。是在这里，我看到了世界真的可以丰富多彩。我在交大最大的收获大概就是世界观的等级提高了吧。","cooked":"

我在大一刚来到学校的时候对大学生活产生过疑问。

我看到有的人继续他的高三生活。任何课都早早坐在前排，积极回答老师上课抛出的问题，认真勤勉地超额完成老师布置下来的作业。
\n我看到有的人把学校仅仅当成宾馆，只是一个廉价的供他睡觉的地方。完全不在意学校安排的学习生活，秉持及格万岁、毕业就行的理念。整日在城市里到处探店、泡吧、摆拍、逛街、吃喝、玩乐，跟他在社会上结识的形形色色的人厮混在一起，纵情声色、好不快活。
\n我看到有的人朝着他的学生标兵理想高歌猛进。团学组织他领导，社团活动他组织，竞赛队长他来当。最后也自然有了为同学服务的干部任职经历、一座又一座的社团比赛奖杯、数十门课程的满绩，诸多竞赛一等奖的傍身 (或者再有几篇一作二作的 paper)。
\n我看到有的人在西交卷路之外寻找自己的未来。有人本科二年级就拿了 HUAWEI 的全职实习去学习真正用于商业生产的技术。还有人去 NUS、berkeley 等等国外高校学期交换，感受更先进、更合理的教学安排。
\n我也看到有的人追求社团里志同道合的朋友们聚在一起做大家喜欢的事，彼此陪伴在 18 岁遇到的最好的朋友身边。

\n我曾幻想存在一种光谱可以度量所有人的大学生活，但我现在认为它不应该存在。

人生是旷野而非轨道

\n
\n在来交大前，我的世界只有第一种人。是在这里，我看到了世界真的可以丰富多彩。我在交大最大的收获大概就是世界观的等级提高了吧。","createdAt":"2023-07-08 09:06:43.84049","updatedAt":"2023-07-08 09:06:43.84049","replyToPostNumber":null,"replyCount":2,"likeCount":10,"wordCount":559,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[{"reaction":"❤️","count":10,"users":[{"id":30,"username":"一只玉米人","name":"玉米🌽"},{"id":62,"username":"Trump","name":"特朗普"},{"id":346,"username":"hoist","name":null},{"id":521,"username":"Danny","name":null},{"id":709,"username":"fly","name":"fly"},{"id":888,"username":"ghost","name":null},{"id":1047,"username":"anonymous_coward_old","name":"Anonymous Coward Old"},{"id":1480,"username":"Erice","name":"Rika"},{"id":2632,"username":"Sharon","name":"Sharon"},{"id":3101,"username":"kkbens","name":"西湖流浪猫"}],"hasReacted":false}],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":182,"username":"duroy","name":"duroy","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/d1/3d/d13d8991365885ad7355d2be1d8aabbe32633dee456adacc58d783b22a2c238f.avif","admin":false,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":null,"signatureCooked":null}},{"id":4207,"postNumber":3,"raw":"本科二年级去 huawei 不算啥吧\n\n而且 huawei 被 a 国制裁，如果要申请 a 国的大学简历上又不能写、写了倒加分、签证秒拒，是不是？@wxystudio","cooked":"

本科二年级去 huawei 不算啥吧

而且 huawei 被 a 国制裁，如果要申请 a 国的大学简历上又不能写、写了倒加分、签证秒拒，是不是？@wxystudio

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这个网站最近思索人生的意义的帖子挺多的，我要是当年才上大学的时候就能看到这些就好了

\n","createdAt":"2023-07-08 09:32:37.18215","updatedAt":"2024-03-17 13:04:52.260415","replyToPostNumber":2,"replyCount":1,"likeCount":3,"wordCount":41,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[{"reaction":"❤️","count":3,"users":[{"id":62,"username":"Trump","name":"特朗普"},{"id":5905,"username":"PipaQinse233","name":"PipaQinse233"},{"id":6205,"username":"uika_winwing","name":null}],"hasReacted":false}],"wiki":false,"version":3,"publicVersion":3,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":1047,"username":"anonymous_coward_old","name":"Anonymous Coward Old","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/43/32/4332638c11248b8ff07033c11de0759a55205facfbec85e14458245a91991faf.avif","admin":false,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":null,"signatureCooked":null}},{"id":4213,"postNumber":5,"raw":"学长目前专业课和各种探索也很多啊，请问这样的进步主要是本科期间还是研究生期间达成的","cooked":"

学长目前专业课和各种探索也很多啊，请问这样的进步主要是本科期间还是研究生期间达成的

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找到自己喜欢且有意义的事业

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世上本无事，庸人自扰之。本来无一物，何处惹尘埃？

\n","createdAt":"2023-07-08 11:04:47.569369","updatedAt":"2023-07-08 11:04:47.569369","replyToPostNumber":null,"replyCount":0,"likeCount":3,"wordCount":24,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[{"reaction":"❤️","count":3,"users":[{"id":491,"username":"lokfaa","name":"今夜雪糕shouldgo"},{"id":789,"username":"Rulai","name":"到底来没来"},{"id":5905,"username":"PipaQinse233","name":"PipaQinse233"}],"hasReacted":false}],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":623,"username":"anonymous16","name":"anonymous16","avatarUrl":null,"admin":false,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":null,"signatureCooked":null}},{"id":4221,"postNumber":8,"raw":"在我交还是有选择的机会，这也是我感恩交大本科时光的原因。高考填志愿选专业基本上是拍脑袋决定，只要专业的名字好听，高大上，就选了。大一大二的学习让我意识到我实际上不感兴趣。\n\n然后大三我决定去参加机器人比赛，虽然最后也没取得什么成绩，但是一年的备赛让我有了继续前进的方向，也让我收获了重要的友谊。我加入机队的时候可以说是 0 基础，代码完全写不动，但是队里依然接纳了我，一年的时间让我踏入了嵌入式的门，是交大这个平台给了我重新选择的机会，相信这样的机会，在交大还有很多。\n\n最后再给安利一下我交的几个机器人队，包括 robocon，robomaster 和 robocup 等等，这些队里不乏高技术水平的大佬，而且队里本身就是一个小社会，在里面也能体会人情世故带来的影响，我觉得如果对这方面感兴趣，并且在队里坚持完一轮比赛，一定会有不错的成长。(不过现在回头看，我发现打比赛也许不如找个好老师开始做科研，看自己选择吧\n\n(非计算机科班的同学想走转码嵌入式方向，从机器人队入门也挺好的","cooked":"

在我交还是有选择的机会，这也是我感恩交大本科时光的原因。高考填志愿选专业基本上是拍脑袋决定，只要专业的名字好听，高大上，就选了。大一大二的学习让我意识到我实际上不感兴趣。

然后大三我决定去参加机器人比赛，虽然最后也没取得什么成绩，但是一年的备赛让我有了继续前进的方向，也让我收获了重要的友谊。我加入机队的时候可以说是 0 基础，代码完全写不动，但是队里依然接纳了我，一年的时间让我踏入了嵌入式的门，是交大这个平台给了我重新选择的机会，相信这样的机会，在交大还有很多。

最后再给安利一下我交的几个机器人队，包括 robocon，robomaster 和 robocup 等等，这些队里不乏高技术水平的大佬，而且队里本身就是一个小社会，在里面也能体会人情世故带来的影响，我觉得如果对这方面感兴趣，并且在队里坚持完一轮比赛，一定会有不错的成长。(不过现在回头看，我发现打比赛也许不如找个好老师开始做科研，看自己选择吧

(非计算机科班的同学想走转码嵌入式方向，从机器人队入门也挺好的

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我认为学到的最重要的一点是，人应该学会放下自己的一切成见与偏见，向你所知道的，可能感兴趣的地方探索，并寻找到自己的正反馈。我们大多数人都不是圣人，在负反馈下的努力，大都是坚持不下去的。

如果你适合卷 GPA，那你肯定能得到正反馈，这样努力下去肯定会变的优秀；但如果你确实不适合卷 GPA，不如试试其他的东西……

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交大的牌子和校友
\n学习而言，很遗憾我没找到啥意义

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华为也没有点击就送的程度吧。a 国我是不想再去第二次了。

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你去 A 国有啥不好体验吗

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匿名用户请注意你的回复太无意义

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