{"topic":{"id":15123,"title":"滴滴与司机对话四小时：除了抽成，司机们还关注什么？","slug":"topic","categoryId":4,"createdAt":"2025-09-18 17:52:46.838241","bumpedAt":"2025-09-24 20:06:48.414407","views":197,"postsCount":5,"highestPostNumber":5,"likeCount":17,"closed":false,"pinned":false,"excerpt":"滴滴开放日评审会，感觉是很有意思也很有价值的活动 https://www.infzm.com/contents/303114","deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"category":{"id":4,"name":"谈笑风生","slug":"general","color":"25AAE2"},"author":{"id":7137,"username":"emu_otori","name":"鳳笑夢","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/0b/13/0b133abcd3dfadb90fdbf7583cfdc31ec56db3dbd063fce95dbe0f09296b527a.avif"},"tags":[]},"posts":[{"id":65992,"postNumber":1,"raw":"滴滴开放日评审会，感觉是很有意思也很有价值的活动\n\nhttps://www.infzm.com/contents/303114","cooked":"

滴滴开放日评审会，感觉是很有意思也很有价值的活动

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感谢分享，很有意义的讨论。最有趣最危险的还是不在这场讨论中，但却无处不在的网络群体
\n可以看到平台能解决的只有抽成问题的信息差，而远无法解释定价和调价的信息差，更不能对抗市场规律

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之前在外地旅游的时候偶尔问司机平台抽多少成，然后可能到一个偏远的地方返程让司机接我就不走平台了，大家都比较高兴。

看起来抽成确实有所降低，至于定价问题就太复杂了，只能说作为消费者还是会选择便宜

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去北京在机场打了几次高德经济型的都是油车，电车都不怎么样感觉油车跑纯亏钱

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不对，我又仔细考虑了一下。平台大可声称压价是为了促成更多的订单，但考虑到灵活就业群体实际上并没有更好的选择，他们的弹性程度远不及平台，因此这部分成本几乎完全转化到了司机头上，而平台则从中获取更多单数带来的利益。甚至可以大胆地猜测，当前的抽成逻辑是只给司机使其愿意继续工作的收入，而差额全部用于最大化平台利益，根本原因还是结构性失业导致司机愿意竞价到最低工资。从纯市场的角度，只有当蛋糕大到不仅每个人都有工作，还有一定的选择权时，才能让最廉价劳动力也有资本竞价购买，底层收入才能有超出维持生活所需的结余。

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