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我也感觉是两个意思，而且第二句只有在傻逼也是一个状态的时候成立，但傻逼应该是一个名词。活着和当傻逼一样？

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「得」后是补语，是对谓词「活」的补充，应该是说话人省略了主语，也就是默认听话人知道谁活得和小丑一样；「着」（表示行为动作或状态的持续）接在「活」（持续性行为动词）后，二者合为一体（谓词性成分名词化）作为句子的主语部分（可理解为「主语」），而其他成分便作为谓语成分，也就是说这句话可以理解为活着是和小丑一样的

稍微换了个词，影响不大

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另外语病不必太纠结，又不是~~高中小镇做题家~~，听话人能听懂说话人传达的意思就行。也就是说，一个句子是可说的就行。

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都大学了，正确与否都早已没那么重要了，合适恰当的优先级才更高。

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后者感觉解释得不太好，再举个例子吧

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活着和有生命可大不一样。
\n——从 CCL 找的
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此句谓语部分（和有生命可大不一样）又可以分出一个谓词性成分「有生命」。这里「活着」和「有生命」两个概念有较强的逻辑关系，所以更可说；而「活着」和「小丑」间逻辑关系较弱（对我来说是这样），所以不太可说。

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一千个读者就有一千个哈姆雷特。
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