{"topic":{"id":12884,"title":"心中的迷茫","slug":"topic","categoryId":4,"createdAt":"2024-06-19 03:29:47.614639","bumpedAt":"2025-05-06 09:40:54.975014","views":547,"postsCount":28,"highestPostNumber":30,"likeCount":32,"closed":false,"pinned":false,"excerpt":"以下内容为有感而发，想到哪说说，可能比较繁杂。本人来自重庆的一个城镇 (农村)，前几代全是农民，是家里出的第一代大学生 (同辈的还有一个电科博士姐姐)。因为家里之前买电脑比较早 (那个时候可能整个街上电脑是个位数)，接触电脑游戏比较早，也对计算机产生了一定兴趣 (但是上大学之前没有 coding 过，根本没有写代码这个概念)，高考填报志愿时选了各个学校的计算机 (或大类) 专业。当时最想去的其实是电科的计算机，分析了往年的分数线是差不…","deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"category":{"id":4,"name":"谈笑风生","slug":"general","color":"25AAE2"},"author":{"id":247,"username":"第五大厄尔","name":"第五大厄尔","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/11/b6/11b6b668ab872bb3fe9d2ecd4282b5f87b254499248f27c430cc1b91f1261893.avif"},"tags":[]},"posts":[{"id":35778,"postNumber":1,"raw":"以下内容为有感而发，想到哪说说，可能比较繁杂。\n\n本人来自重庆的一个城镇 (农村)，前几代全是农民，是家里出的第一代大学生 (同辈的还有一个电科博士姐姐)。因为家里之前买电脑比较早 (那个时候可能整个街上电脑是个位数)，接触电脑游戏比较早，也对计算机产生了一定兴趣 (但是上大学之前没有 coding 过，根本没有写代码这个概念)，高考填报志愿时选了各个学校的计算机 (或大类) 专业。当时最想去的其实是电科的计算机，分析了往年的分数线是差不多的 (我 1300 左右，而电科 20 年是 1389，但每年都比去年排名高)，然后把西交填在了下面 (西交是 1700 左右)。最后比电科计算机低了一分，西交大类高了 1 分来了西交。当时根本没有 C9 这一个概念。还记得班主任在家长群里发，西交近年扩招，非常具有性价比，结果最后班上只有我一人来了西安😮。\n\n上大学之前，对大学的概念都是读了大学就找工作，所以刚入学时对大学要干什么没有任何想法，只是想着先上上课，加几个社团 (最后去了吉他社学了一学期吉他，在学生会待了两年)，完成学业任务就打游戏。本人因为一些原因比较内向，除了几个初中玩到现在的朋友外没有什么社交。(还记得大计基考试前 1 小时我自认为复习完了，还在宿舍打空洞骑士)。当时大一的想法就只有一个，专业分到计算机就行了。大一最后排名 200 左右，也是如愿进入计算机专业。\n\n进大二过后，我应该算是没什么目标了，仍然是和大一的状态一样，除了上课就是打游戏。但现在回忆起来，觉得大二的课是真的多，并且太多和计算机无关的课程，专业课太少了。每天拖着疲惫的身体去金工实习，周末又是模电实验又是数电实验，感觉其实每天也都挺忙的，但是现在来看其实并没有什么收获。大二排名大概在 80 左右。\n\n大二下的时候和室友➕一个大一的参加了一次程序设计校赛 (但是没有事先准备)，结果 3 个人 5 个小时做出来 3 个题，连签到题都没做完。现在还记得我在那翻算法设计书找回溯法来写 d 题，2 个小时写不出来，听了讲解之后才发现根本没有那么复杂😇。大二下的时候还去考了一次 ccf，当时只会 C 语言，连 C++ 标准库，标准输入输出都不知道是什么，拿着面向对象的课本在考场抄 include＜cstdio＞，class 都写不明白，最后喜提 80 分。大二上 (还是下忘了) 的时候我们的学业导师组织他指导的学生开了一次会，先问了我们各自将来的打算，然后说如果想做进组科研可以找他。那个时候其实有点想找，但是我当时连 C++ 类都写不明白，觉得自己根本没那个能力，(大创、竞赛之类的，大二上才知道这些东西，我也觉得自己没能力，也没人带我，所以都没参加) 最后还是退缩了。大二下考数电前偶然发现了 github 上 pku cs-self-learning 的指南，仔细的拜读了一下。也忘了是什么时候产生了对机器学习的兴趣，(可能就是在大二下)，就在暑假看吴恩达的入门课开始学机器学习，跟着做了一点 lab。由于这门课完全面向初学者，这里面的 lab 都比较简单。另外闲暇之余学习了吉他，大二就这么过完了。\n\n大三上学业导师突然新建了一个群，说是由于指导的部分新生分流专业了，指导学生发生了变化，又召集我们开了一次会。感觉我们的学业导师算相对负责了，一问其他同学都说根本没走开过会。我在那天晚上忐忑之下给他写了个小作文，说我对机器学习有点感兴趣，均分多少多少，问是否能去他们组，还来不来得及。结果他说进组锻炼可以，但我这分保研有希望，能保研别的都不重要，就让我又动摇了。开完会后我又找了他聊了几句，他也是这样的想法。于是我当时就问他大三上寒假开始进组是否来得及，他觉得来得及，我说期末完再联系他。然而期末完后，我确实找了他，但是并没有说强烈的想要进组，他也表示让我先看一些东西，如果有合适的项目可以让我进。但是放了寒假在家，我似乎失去了勇气，于是科研的想法最终被我扼杀了。\n\n大三下一看，刚好有感兴趣的专业选修课，遂选了机器学习和计算机视觉，刚好这两门课都是 64 开。学期初又重新考了一次 ccf，这次提前准备了一个月，虽然最后还是只考了 200。也是在这时接触到了交大门，看到了 cs 的各种帖子，才发现原来本科毕业找工作是需要实习的。但这个时候的我除了成绩还说得过去外似乎啥也没有，简历也根本没写，也不想找外地的实习，一去看如果要实习似乎需要提前几个月准备刷题和背八股文。而这学期因兴趣选的两门课却又是作业和实验巨多的两门课，我仍然没有自断保研的余念，放不下这些作业和实验，最终还是没有准备笔试或面试的内容，简历都是在 5 月份一个晚上心血来潮写的。实习之路似乎也被我堵死了。大三下除了再次参加了一下程序设计校赛 (我应该是少数大三参加的人了)，拿了个三等奖，另外因为大二选了一年男子健美产生兴趣，开始了系统健身之外，也没做过其他事了。\n\n为什么突然想回顾大学以来的经历，说来也好笑，昨晚考了计算机视觉，我自认为复习的不错，却在考试时连续做了两个半小时却最终可能是我目前的期末卷面最低分 (估计 60 左右)，晚上脑子仍然持续活跃，到 3 点左右可能才睡着，早上不到 6 点又醒，床上躺到 8 点多，发现仍然不困，于是就去食堂买了个早餐，又突然想起来有些日子没看交大门了，就打开来逛了逛，又翻了翻各种帖子。上次这样失眠好像是在高考了。本来就暂时失去了复习下一科的动力，好像突然有了一个分享念头，于是就开始了回忆。\n\n老实说现在的我对未来一片迷茫。母亲在我大二下的时候被诊断出了早期癌症，到现在已经做完了所有的化疗进入稳定康复期，这件事似乎让我瞬间变得成熟了。他们也曾找我谈论过关于未来的话题，但现在由于受到别人影响他们的观念似乎也变成了我们得读研究生才能找到好工作了。但他们并没有逼我，问我的意见，我就说考一次研，考不上就找工作，我并没告诉他们我其实存有想要保研的侥幸心理，也没告诉他们本科找工作似乎是需要实习的，甚至没告诉他们考研和找工作其实是冲突的。我还是不想让他们太操心，毕竟他们也不太懂。但是这些想法堆积在我的心里，似乎也到了需要我做选择的时候了。朋友似乎都已经决定了考研/保研，我却仍然举棋不定。\n我目前的想法是，如果本科毕业，无实习无大创无科研，想找重庆/成都/西安的工作，薪资能到 10000 最好，不知是否有可能？目前的想法是考研秋招两手抓，但是又害怕两头都完蛋……\n\n回顾了一下我的大学前三年，我觉得我的前三年，缺乏目标，有勇气但不多；接触外面世界太晚，信息闭塞；由于自己内向原因大学没有认识几个学长学姐，有时想要参加大创/竞赛却不知道哪里找队友/项目，害怕试错；自认为学习能力，代码能力不是完全没有，却除了实验能拿点高分外没有做出相应的成果；感情方面一片空白……但我也不是完全没有收获。我有了几个真正热爱的兴趣；痘痘也好了很多；变得更加成熟；和家人的日常聊天更多，也缓和了姐姐和父母间的矛盾，20 年来终于由我建立了家庭的微信群；每周开始和家里人视频；似乎找到了感兴趣的方向……我觉得我的大学前三年并不是荒废的，只是对于我的求职，似乎没有什么帮助，所以现在产生了迷茫。\n\n不知不觉也码了这么多字了，一上午的时间也即将过去。仍然记得高中老师的偶然的一句金句：\"我们害怕的不是考试，我们害怕的是未知\"。其实类比到各种事情，好像都是这样。其实心中还有诸多杂念，诸如感情方面的，友情方面的，以后如果心血来潮，再作分享吧。","cooked":"

以下内容为有感而发，想到哪说说，可能比较繁杂。

本人来自重庆的一个城镇 (农村)，前几代全是农民，是家里出的第一代大学生 (同辈的还有一个电科博士姐姐)。因为家里之前买电脑比较早 (那个时候可能整个街上电脑是个位数)，接触电脑游戏比较早，也对计算机产生了一定兴趣 (但是上大学之前没有 coding 过，根本没有写代码这个概念)，高考填报志愿时选了各个学校的计算机 (或大类) 专业。当时最想去的其实是电科的计算机，分析了往年的分数线是差不多的 (我 1300 左右，而电科 20 年是 1389，但每年都比去年排名高)，然后把西交填在了下面 (西交是 1700 左右)。最后比电科计算机低了一分，西交大类高了 1 分来了西交。当时根本没有 C9 这一个概念。还记得班主任在家长群里发，西交近年扩招，非常具有性价比，结果最后班上只有我一人来了西安😮。

上大学之前，对大学的概念都是读了大学就找工作，所以刚入学时对大学要干什么没有任何想法，只是想着先上上课，加几个社团 (最后去了吉他社学了一学期吉他，在学生会待了两年)，完成学业任务就打游戏。本人因为一些原因比较内向，除了几个初中玩到现在的朋友外没有什么社交。(还记得大计基考试前 1 小时我自认为复习完了，还在宿舍打空洞骑士)。当时大一的想法就只有一个，专业分到计算机就行了。大一最后排名 200 左右，也是如愿进入计算机专业。

进大二过后，我应该算是没什么目标了，仍然是和大一的状态一样，除了上课就是打游戏。但现在回忆起来，觉得大二的课是真的多，并且太多和计算机无关的课程，专业课太少了。每天拖着疲惫的身体去金工实习，周末又是模电实验又是数电实验，感觉其实每天也都挺忙的，但是现在来看其实并没有什么收获。大二排名大概在 80 左右。

大二下的时候和室友➕一个大一的参加了一次程序设计校赛 (但是没有事先准备)，结果 3 个人 5 个小时做出来 3 个题，连签到题都没做完。现在还记得我在那翻算法设计书找回溯法来写 d 题，2 个小时写不出来，听了讲解之后才发现根本没有那么复杂😇。大二下的时候还去考了一次 ccf，当时只会 C 语言，连 C++ 标准库，标准输入输出都不知道是什么，拿着面向对象的课本在考场抄 include＜cstdio＞，class 都写不明白，最后喜提 80 分。大二上 (还是下忘了) 的时候我们的学业导师组织他指导的学生开了一次会，先问了我们各自将来的打算，然后说如果想做进组科研可以找他。那个时候其实有点想找，但是我当时连 C++ 类都写不明白，觉得自己根本没那个能力，(大创、竞赛之类的，大二上才知道这些东西，我也觉得自己没能力，也没人带我，所以都没参加) 最后还是退缩了。大二下考数电前偶然发现了 github 上 pku cs-self-learning 的指南，仔细的拜读了一下。也忘了是什么时候产生了对机器学习的兴趣，(可能就是在大二下)，就在暑假看吴恩达的入门课开始学机器学习，跟着做了一点 lab。由于这门课完全面向初学者，这里面的 lab 都比较简单。另外闲暇之余学习了吉他，大二就这么过完了。

大三上学业导师突然新建了一个群，说是由于指导的部分新生分流专业了，指导学生发生了变化，又召集我们开了一次会。感觉我们的学业导师算相对负责了，一问其他同学都说根本没走开过会。我在那天晚上忐忑之下给他写了个小作文，说我对机器学习有点感兴趣，均分多少多少，问是否能去他们组，还来不来得及。结果他说进组锻炼可以，但我这分保研有希望，能保研别的都不重要，就让我又动摇了。开完会后我又找了他聊了几句，他也是这样的想法。于是我当时就问他大三上寒假开始进组是否来得及，他觉得来得及，我说期末完再联系他。然而期末完后，我确实找了他，但是并没有说强烈的想要进组，他也表示让我先看一些东西，如果有合适的项目可以让我进。但是放了寒假在家，我似乎失去了勇气，于是科研的想法最终被我扼杀了。

大三下一看，刚好有感兴趣的专业选修课，遂选了机器学习和计算机视觉，刚好这两门课都是 64 开。学期初又重新考了一次 ccf，这次提前准备了一个月，虽然最后还是只考了 200。也是在这时接触到了交大门，看到了 cs 的各种帖子，才发现原来本科毕业找工作是需要实习的。但这个时候的我除了成绩还说得过去外似乎啥也没有，简历也根本没写，也不想找外地的实习，一去看如果要实习似乎需要提前几个月准备刷题和背八股文。而这学期因兴趣选的两门课却又是作业和实验巨多的两门课，我仍然没有自断保研的余念，放不下这些作业和实验，最终还是没有准备笔试或面试的内容，简历都是在 5 月份一个晚上心血来潮写的。实习之路似乎也被我堵死了。大三下除了再次参加了一下程序设计校赛 (我应该是少数大三参加的人了)，拿了个三等奖，另外因为大二选了一年男子健美产生兴趣，开始了系统健身之外，也没做过其他事了。

为什么突然想回顾大学以来的经历，说来也好笑，昨晚考了计算机视觉，我自认为复习的不错，却在考试时连续做了两个半小时却最终可能是我目前的期末卷面最低分 (估计 60 左右)，晚上脑子仍然持续活跃，到 3 点左右可能才睡着，早上不到 6 点又醒，床上躺到 8 点多，发现仍然不困，于是就去食堂买了个早餐，又突然想起来有些日子没看交大门了，就打开来逛了逛，又翻了翻各种帖子。上次这样失眠好像是在高考了。本来就暂时失去了复习下一科的动力，好像突然有了一个分享念头，于是就开始了回忆。

老实说现在的我对未来一片迷茫。母亲在我大二下的时候被诊断出了早期癌症，到现在已经做完了所有的化疗进入稳定康复期，这件事似乎让我瞬间变得成熟了。他们也曾找我谈论过关于未来的话题，但现在由于受到别人影响他们的观念似乎也变成了我们得读研究生才能找到好工作了。但他们并没有逼我，问我的意见，我就说考一次研，考不上就找工作，我并没告诉他们我其实存有想要保研的侥幸心理，也没告诉他们本科找工作似乎是需要实习的，甚至没告诉他们考研和找工作其实是冲突的。我还是不想让他们太操心，毕竟他们也不太懂。但是这些想法堆积在我的心里，似乎也到了需要我做选择的时候了。朋友似乎都已经决定了考研/保研，我却仍然举棋不定。
\n我目前的想法是，如果本科毕业，无实习无大创无科研，想找重庆/成都/西安的工作，薪资能到 10000 最好，不知是否有可能？目前的想法是考研秋招两手抓，但是又害怕两头都完蛋……

回顾了一下我的大学前三年，我觉得我的前三年，缺乏目标，有勇气但不多；接触外面世界太晚，信息闭塞；由于自己内向原因大学没有认识几个学长学姐，有时想要参加大创/竞赛却不知道哪里找队友/项目，害怕试错；自认为学习能力，代码能力不是完全没有，却除了实验能拿点高分外没有做出相应的成果；感情方面一片空白……但我也不是完全没有收获。我有了几个真正热爱的兴趣；痘痘也好了很多；变得更加成熟；和家人的日常聊天更多，也缓和了姐姐和父母间的矛盾，20 年来终于由我建立了家庭的微信群；每周开始和家里人视频；似乎找到了感兴趣的方向……我觉得我的大学前三年并不是荒废的，只是对于我的求职，似乎没有什么帮助，所以现在产生了迷茫。

不知不觉也码了这么多字了，一上午的时间也即将过去。仍然记得高中老师的偶然的一句金句：\"我们害怕的不是考试，我们害怕的是未知\"。其实类比到各种事情，好像都是这样。其实心中还有诸多杂念，诸如感情方面的，友情方面的，以后如果心血来潮，再作分享吧。

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我目前的想法是，如果本科毕业，无实习无大创无科研，想找重庆/成都/西安的工作，薪资能到 10000 最好，不知是否有可能？目前的想法是考研秋招两手抓，但是又害怕两头都完蛋……
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帮 OP 提炼一下重点信息 😉

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我们的学业导师组织他指导的学生开了一次会，先问了我们各自将来的打算，然后说如果想做进组科研可以找他。
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感觉学业导师还不错😲
\n我的学业导师到现在没见过

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我目前的想法是，如果本科毕业，无实习无大创无科研，想找重庆/成都/西安的工作，薪资能到 10000 最好，不知是否有可能？目前的想法是考研秋招两手抓，但是又害怕两头都完蛋……
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两手抓真的两头都完蛋，用高三的精力复习本校基本能上岸，背八股刷题找实习毕业了薪资 10000 也不是大问题。主要看 op 想要什么了

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我总觉得月薪 10000 不是太高而是太低

好学校加好专业（指工作领域）如果也达不到这个水平

那么人均月收入 3000 我也信（指的是除去 2% 的富有人群）

放在县城带上广泛的农民（月收入 100？）可能人均 1000 算好了🙂‍↕️

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我觉得没到两头完蛋的程度。本人同学 0 实习无秋招，有相关科研经历，去到科大讯飞做 AI，但是据他讲有压力，春招岗位比较少。

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缓和了姐姐和父母间的矛盾
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很厉害，能一手缓解家庭矛盾。我左右逢源这么多年基本做不到。

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哎，其实他们矛盾主要还是缺乏沟通，互相不理解，我姐假期又少，每次过年回家都会因为同样的事最后吵架不欢而散，我也是两边询问想法，转告对方的想法

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我也是希望越高越好，但是确实没有什么概念😐父母之前只在厂里上过班，现在在家，都没有固定收入

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我只是从【应该】的角度这么讲的
\n虽然魔幻现实是这个金额确实不少了。

我家收入也普普通通。

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计算机视觉确实啊，，，我也感觉复习的不错，考完估计卷面 50 都难 🥲，还是忘记太多线代的东西了 😭

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cs 1w 轻松吧，去 hw 随便拿吧

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应该去读美国 phd，不要去打工。

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现在尼交 CS 本科去华为难度怎样？我了解研究生进华为很多都跑池子，等待得让人焦虑

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换个地方吧在西安被 pua 烂了

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我发现心情凌乱的时候写点东西整理一下挺不错的

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markdown 段落间要有两个 '\\n'

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dmy 是不是要读 phd 了，我看到昨天 arxiv 上和 kaiming 的 paper 了

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dmy 继续待在 mit 了

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dmy 是谁

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我操太强了也…… MIT😭

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想继续奋斗就读研，想快乐躺平就考编

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如果本科毕业，无实习无大创无科研，想找重庆/成都/西安的工作，薪资能到 10000 最好，不知是否有可能？
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我认为有可能。除了少数科研成就突出的本科生，一般本科找工作的时候可以忽略大创和科研经历，所以问题简化为：在没有实习的情况下，能否在中西部找到月薪 1 万的工作？

目前已知的是：西安的华为、比亚迪等大公司开出的价格应该可以再高一些，中小公司和国企也有希望达到这个价格。（题外话：毕竟老家太原做云服务的公司都可以开到一万，西安肯定更多）从现在开始准备技术项目和笔试面试，九月开始参加秋招应该可以。

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目前的想法是考研秋招两手抓，但是又害怕两头都完蛋……
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以你对自己情况的介绍而言，建议放弃其一。因为考研和秋招的时间高度重叠，如果你不是对某一条路线有极大的把握，那么还是不要试图兼顾为好。

9 月到 10 月是秋招笔试、面试集中的时间段，频繁的笔试面试和内部转投很容易吞掉你三分之一的工作时间，而为了保持状态你还需要付出更多时间来复习或做题。这样忙下来，从八月到十月很难安心下来复习考研，所以我感觉同时进行是很困难的。

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考编考公大法好

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感谢

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实习要离职了，上班摸鱼久违刷了刷 xjtumen，回看自己发风发的帖子感觉有点脚趾抠城堡了 💀

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哇 op 最后是找工了吗祝你一切都好 $\":wave_gif:\"$

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此人不语，只是一味地在门里生产废料。

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并没有，最后还是加入考研大军了 🙃只是因为想搞点钱配个电脑就找了个实习

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就要这种效果。看看一年前尴尬的我自己 🤩

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