{"topic":{"id":11115,"title":"怎么样才算志存高远，脚踏实地","slug":"topic","categoryId":4,"createdAt":"2024-03-31 01:36:18.289104","bumpedAt":"2024-04-01 15:11:10.395188","views":327,"postsCount":14,"highestPostNumber":14,"likeCount":8,"closed":false,"pinned":false,"pinnedGlobally":false,"pinnedAt":null,"pinnedUntil":null,"isBanner":false,"excerpt":"据我观察，人在做选择的时候喜欢设定一个阈值 x，然后认为比 x 高的值就是“上岸”了，不是很有区别。从具体行动上来看，人会尝试最大化“上岸”的概率。当 x 过低的时候，人可能会决策非常保守，最后发现最早去追求的目标价值很低，变的很平庸。当 x 比较高的时候，人可能感觉自己一事无成，活的非常失败。最后连平庸也没做到。怎么样调整人生才能尽可能发挥潜质呢？","deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"category":{"id":4,"name":"谈笑风生","slug":"general","color":"25AAE2"},"author":{"id":1047,"username":"anonymous_coward_old","name":"Anonymous Coward Old","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/43/32/4332638c11248b8ff07033c11de0759a55205facfbec85e14458245a91991faf.avif"},"tags":[]},"posts":[{"id":28228,"postNumber":1,"raw":"据我观察，人在做选择的时候喜欢设定一个阈值 x，然后认为比 x 高的值就是“上岸”了，不是很有区别。\r\n\r\n从具体行动上来看，人会尝试最大化“上岸”的概率。当 x 过低的时候，人可能会决策非常保守，最后发现最早去追求的目标价值很低，变的很平庸。\r\n\r\n当 x 比较高的时候，人可能感觉自己一事无成，活的非常失败。最后连平庸也没做到。\r\n\r\n怎么样调整人生才能尽可能发挥潜质呢？","cooked":"

据我观察，人在做选择的时候喜欢设定一个阈值 x，然后认为比 x 高的值就是“上岸”了，不是很有区别。

从具体行动上来看，人会尝试最大化“上岸”的概率。当 x 过低的时候，人可能会决策非常保守，最后发现最早去追求的目标价值很低，变的很平庸。

当 x 比较高的时候，人可能感觉自己一事无成，活的非常失败。最后连平庸也没做到。

怎么样调整人生才能尽可能发挥潜质呢？

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所以能够一直追求更高目标的人非常少见，这种上岸心理存在于各行各业，哪怕是顶级大佬都无法例外。高考上了清华开始躺平，考研上岸了开始躺平，开公司的当了老板开始躺平，搞科研的当了教授开始躺平。。。

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depends on expected utility

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自黄药师黄仁勋来，世人皆爱猫。余独爱老鼠之，可爱之态，活泼之动，实为人所难以抗拒。喵~

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取法于上，仅得为中，取法于中，故为其下。

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年月擦身过，暂且问，会更好吗？

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如果从躺平中得到快乐，未必不能算作“取法为上”

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have fun staying poor

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怎么样调整人生才能尽可能发挥潜质呢？
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想要尽可能发挥潜质的人目标不会是上岸，追求上岸的稳定的人也没想过发挥全部潜质。

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\n"}},{"id":28244,"postNumber":8,"raw":"我感觉理想的状态是，定一些踮起脚尖差不多能达到的目标，从不断提升自己中获得满足感和成就感（而不是说非要“上岸”才算赢）\n在定了目标并付出努力后，即使没能上岸，你的努力往往也会带来一些好的副产品。\n比如为了极好的 offer 努力可是最终被拒，但是回过头来看，为了那个极好的 offer 努力的各种经历，能让你拿下一个足够好的 offer（即使它不是极高的）","cooked":"

我感觉理想的状态是，定一些踮起脚尖差不多能达到的目标，从不断提升自己中获得满足感和成就感（而不是说非要“上岸”才算赢）
\n在定了目标并付出努力后，即使没能上岸，你的努力往往也会带来一些好的副产品。
\n比如为了极好的 offer 努力可是最终被拒，但是回过头来看，为了那个极好的 offer 努力的各种经历，能让你拿下一个足够好的 offer（即使它不是极高的）

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年月擦身过，暂且问，会更好吗？

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目标只是手段不是目的，达成目标时开启的新人生才是目的，不要因为执着于手段而忘记了原本的目的

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那为什么不能将新人生定为目标呢 🤔

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\n"}},{"id":28317,"postNumber":11,"raw":"第三个特点：不甘于平庸。\r\n\r\n走入社会后的年轻人，应该设定更高的标准。大学期间的同学、一起共事的同事中，有很多非常不错的人才，技术、成绩都比我好，但 10 年过去了，很多人没有达到我当初的预期。\r\n\r\n很多人毕业后，目标设定就不高。我回顾了一下，发现有同事加入银行 IT 部门：有的是毕业后就加入，有的是工作一段时间后加入。为什么我把这个跟「不甘于平庸」挂在一起呢？\r\n\r\n因为他们很多人加入，是为了快点解决北京户口，或者得到买经济适用房的机会。\r\n\r\n如果一个人一毕业，就把目标定在这儿：在北京五环内买一个小两居、小三居，把精力都花在这上面，那么工作就会受到很大影响，他的行为会发生变化，不愿意冒风险。\r\n\r\n如果不甘于平庸，希望做得非常好的话，其实不会为这些东西担心，这很重要。我说不平庸，并不是专指薪酬要很高或者技术很好，而是你对自己的标准一定要高。也许你前两年变化得慢，但 10 年后再看，肯定会非常不一样。\r\n\r\n=====\r\n\r\n以这个为例，去“银行 IT 部门”的新人生作为目的本身的价值是低的，也不助于发展潜力。","cooked":"

第三个特点：不甘于平庸。

走入社会后的年轻人，应该设定更高的标准。大学期间的同学、一起共事的同事中，有很多非常不错的人才，技术、成绩都比我好，但 10 年过去了，很多人没有达到我当初的预期。

很多人毕业后，目标设定就不高。我回顾了一下，发现有同事加入银行 IT 部门：有的是毕业后就加入，有的是工作一段时间后加入。为什么我把这个跟「不甘于平庸」挂在一起呢？

因为他们很多人加入，是为了快点解决北京户口，或者得到买经济适用房的机会。

如果一个人一毕业，就把目标定在这儿：在北京五环内买一个小两居、小三居，把精力都花在这上面，那么工作就会受到很大影响，他的行为会发生变化，不愿意冒风险。

如果不甘于平庸，希望做得非常好的话，其实不会为这些东西担心，这很重要。我说不平庸，并不是专指薪酬要很高或者技术很好，而是你对自己的标准一定要高。也许你前两年变化得慢，但 10 年后再看，肯定会非常不一样。

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以这个为例，去“银行 IT 部门”的新人生作为目的本身的价值是低的，也不助于发展潜力。

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怎么样调整人生才能尽可能发挥潜质呢？
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有一种”我考的每一分都不能浪费“的美感 $\":a_grinning_face_with_sweat:\"$

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什么自我辩论，建议引入 Alice Bob 树洞机制已将人区分开来

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新建树洞插件，新建话题时选择身份，后续参与回复的人获得一致的身份

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