{"topic":{"id":15507,"title":"虚拟情景：如何让钱生钱？","slug":"topic","categoryId":4,"createdAt":"2026-02-01 11:58:29.954223","bumpedAt":"2026-02-18 06:58:52.94569","views":202,"postsCount":7,"highestPostNumber":7,"likeCount":6,"closed":false,"pinned":false,"excerpt":"本贴仅为虚拟情景想象，不构成任何理财或投资建议！如有雷同，纯属巧合我们假设这样一个情景：某人长期关注投资市场，从房地产、邮币卡到虚拟货币、期货杠杆乃至近期的金银；但无论在何处都是散财童子，严重亏损。现在此人存款有限，希望同时做到以下几点：尽可能避免本金亏损（最多也就只能是抹个零）；收益最好能跑赢通胀；适合长期且风险承受能力较低的情况。如果是塬友的话：基于这种“求稳”的需求，有哪些方向或工具值得优先关注？在低本金的前提下…","deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"category":{"id":4,"name":"谈笑风生","slug":"general","color":"25AAE2"},"author":{"id":5905,"username":"PipaQinse233","name":"PipaQinse233","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/f7/1b/f71bbda87a32de08df517fe7ee4a14e3f63bfd1b2105d3ddb8ba1f4c2eaa1c29.avif"},"tags":[]},"posts":[{"id":70956,"postNumber":1,"raw":"**本贴仅为虚拟情景想象，不构成任何理财或投资建议！如有雷同，纯属巧合**\n\n---\n\n我们假设这样一个情景：\n\n某人长期关注投资市场，从房地产、邮币卡到虚拟货币、期货杠杆乃至近期的金银；但无论在何处都是散财童子，严重亏损。\n\n现在此人存款有限，希望同时做到以下几点：\n1. 尽可能避免本金亏损（最多也就只能是抹个零）；\n2. 收益最好能跑赢通胀；\n3. 适合长期且风险承受能力较低的情况。\n\n如果是塬友的话：\n* 基于这种“求稳”的需求，有哪些方向或工具值得优先关注？\n* 在低本金的前提下，如何平衡安全性、流动性和收益？\n* 当前定期利率比通货膨胀率还低，这种情况下如何优化理财结构？\n\n---\n\n以上情景并不完全真实存在，现实中应该也不会有人惨到处处碰壁吧。总之欢迎塬友的讨论！","cooked":"

本贴仅为虚拟情景想象，不构成任何理财或投资建议！如有雷同，纯属巧合

我们假设这样一个情景：

某人长期关注投资市场，从房地产、邮币卡到虚拟货币、期货杠杆乃至近期的金银；但无论在何处都是散财童子，严重亏损。

现在此人存款有限，希望同时做到以下几点：

尽可能避免本金亏损（最多也就只能是抹个零）；
收益最好能跑赢通胀；
适合长期且风险承受能力较低的情况。

如果是塬友的话：

基于这种“求稳”的需求，有哪些方向或工具值得优先关注？
在低本金的前提下，如何平衡安全性、流动性和收益？
当前定期利率比通货膨胀率还低，这种情况下如何优化理财结构？

以上情景并不完全真实存在，现实中应该也不会有人惨到处处碰壁吧。总之欢迎塬友的讨论！

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——發自我的手機

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US Treasury

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1 不可能。
\n日常最多 1% 回撤的话可以看看《smart portfolios》的策略，里面有 60%+的债券

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1 和 3 都是我看重的，2 不强求的话，我关注到的两位 up 主都是我觉得有帮助的，供参考：

1 是 https://b23.tv/Wggkb06

2 是 https://b23.tv/s8G7R5l

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存款有限且不能接受回撤还是有点几乎不可能了
\n投资市场的确定性是不存在的没有风险就没有收益
\n并且本金越少工具越少，更难以去用贴水套利或者用期权风险对冲

所以严格满足的话只能考虑远期国债和少量银行股这种 cn 特色国债
\n至少现在位置不高

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保持对自己的诚实，清楚知道自己在做什么。
\n如果有情绪上的波动（喜悦 or 恐惧 or 其他）说明现在的做法非常有可能是错误的。

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我虽然行过死荫的幽谷，也不怕遭害，因为你与我同在。
\n诗篇 23:4

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适合长期且风险承受能力较低的情况
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买纳斯达克和标普 😅
\n不过这俩我拿了快半年定投都没咋赚钱
\n个人感觉理财的关键在于你要把这钱不当钱
\n极度厌恶风险就定存
\n心态要好
\n目前准备单独买点特斯拉

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在低本金的前提下，如何平衡安全性、流动性和收益？
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该用用，该花花

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当前定期利率比通货膨胀率还低，这种情况下如何优化理财结构？
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反正钱不多，干脆不存钱了

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ぜーんぶ弾けなーい！

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