{"topic":{"id":13209,"title":"女生一生都在害怕什么","slug":"topic","userId":4668,"categoryId":4,"createdAt":"2024-08-04 19:34:59.790441","bumpedAt":"2024-08-30 15:48:06.106493","views":894,"postsCount":27,"highestPostNumber":28,"likeCount":37,"closed":false,"pinned":false,"pinnedGlobally":false,"pinnedAt":null,"pinnedUntil":null,"isBanner":false,"excerpt":"出生即死亡 ”我没生出男孩怪我自己肚子不争气“ “如果是男性的话就留下，如果是女性的话就把她打掉” ”姥姥当年那时候差不点就把我给杀了“ ”你要是生个女孩有多远给我抱多远“ 没血脉可依傍 ”嫁出去的女儿，泼出去的水“ ”家里的东西是留给弟弟和哥哥的“ 胁迫 “那个老师跟孩子说，他有一个长长的望远镜，一直能伸到你家里面“ ”小孩就出来买冰激凌“ ”幼儿园里边的那个爷爷谁要玩滑梯谁就要给他摸一下摸得很痛“ \"银行经理以辞职威胁…","deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"isPrivate":false,"isMembersOnly":false,"category":{"id":4,"name":"谈笑风生","slug":"general","color":"25AAE2"},"author":{"id":4668,"username":"IO","name":null,"avatarUrl":null},"realAuthor":{"id":4668,"username":"IO","name":null,"avatarUrl":null},"tags":[]},"posts":[{"id":38247,"postNumber":1,"raw":"# 出生即死亡\n”我没生出男孩怪我自己肚子不争气“\n“如果是男性的话就留下，如果是女性的话就把她打掉”\n”姥姥当年那时候差不点就把我给杀了“\n”你要是生个女孩有多远给我抱多远“\n\n# 没血脉可依傍\n”嫁出去的女儿，泼出去的水“\n”家里的东西是留给弟弟和哥哥的“\n\n# 胁迫\n“那个老师跟孩子说，他有一个长长的望远镜，一直能伸到你家里面“\n”小孩就出来买冰激凌“\n”幼儿园里边的那个爷爷谁要玩滑梯谁就要给他摸一下摸得很痛“\n\"银行经理以辞职威胁女职员开房\"\n前几天的博士毕业威胁新闻\n\n# 夜里不止怕鬼\n”女孩穿短裙夜跑遭强奸“\n”女子夜晚独行遭男子尾随男子搭讪被拒对女孩拳打脚踢“\n\n# 怕封闭空间 \n”滴滴这四年：至少 50 起案例 53 名被害人都是女性“\n”杭州母亲带孩子去医院看病电梯里被老大爷揩油“\n”地铁偷拍女孩裙底“\n\n# 在家里低人一等\n”一家四口人，就三个人打她“\n”四胞胎的姐姐睡厨房“\n”因在女儿填高考志愿时起争执丈夫将妻子打致左耳鼓膜穿孔女儿的手掌被缝了三针“\n\n# 婚姻\n”我妈老是给我说结了婚才是完整的女人早点找人嫁了“\n警方通报顺德低俗婚闹事件\n几名伴郎有的抱住柳岩的腰有的抱着她的腿要将她扔到水里\n”就是不想失去她我很爱她怕她出轨不想孩子没有妈妈残疾了别的男人就不喜欢她了“（男子持刀砍掉妻子的手）\n”伤害陌生人是要受到惩罚的在家里为什么不呢结婚证不是犯罪许可证“\n中国每年 15.7 万妇女自杀其中 60% 是家庭暴力\n”孩子在肚子里的时候我老公和他的家人都想让我赶紧辞职当一个全职妈妈“\n全职妈妈因为家庭不独立在家庭中地位极低这类家庭离婚概率极高\n\n# 社会规训刻板印象\n深圳龙华区青春期教材”男生喜欢什么样的女生？ “...\n”青春期的时候曾经被男生嫌胖让陈女士觉得自卑日积月累后以厌食发泄出来“ （厌食症死亡率极高）\n”女孩本就懦弱“ （不是被规训威胁出来要温柔体贴？）\n”女生能做到这份上就可以了“ （why？）\n”女生就是理科不好“ （事实：经济越发达思想越平等的地方男女理科成绩差异越小）\n\n# 怕漂亮\n”南昌女律师被杀害：因为你好看所以选你做鬼夫妻“\n\n# 工作机会独立性\n前几年和一个西交机械的学姐聊过她是年级第一某厂（知名度极高）招聘没要但班里不怎么学习的混日子男生能进\n\n法律规定产假发工资但没有规定不能招聘歧视所以很多企业为了避免产假带来的经济损失和法律风险招聘时女性必须说”长期没有生育意愿“ ，不性别歧视的企业因为用人成本更高破产概率更大即使存在也会被劣币驱逐良币\n\n# 害怕诉说害怕沉默\n联合国妇女属曾统计全球至少有 35% 的女性曾遭遇身体或性暴力，部分国家的比例更是可能高达 70%\n然而匿名调查问卷也是有很多人沉默需要仔细设计和找到前后不一致的矛盾","cooked":"

出生即死亡

”我没生出男孩怪我自己肚子不争气“
\n“如果是男性的话就留下，如果是女性的话就把她打掉”
\n”姥姥当年那时候差不点就把我给杀了“
\n”你要是生个女孩有多远给我抱多远“

没血脉可依傍

”嫁出去的女儿，泼出去的水“
\n”家里的东西是留给弟弟和哥哥的“

胁迫

“那个老师跟孩子说，他有一个长长的望远镜，一直能伸到你家里面“
\n”小孩就出来买冰激凌“
\n”幼儿园里边的那个爷爷谁要玩滑梯谁就要给他摸一下摸得很痛“
\n\"银行经理以辞职威胁女职员开房\"
\n前几天的博士毕业威胁新闻

夜里不止怕鬼

”女孩穿短裙夜跑遭强奸“
\n”女子夜晚独行遭男子尾随男子搭讪被拒对女孩拳打脚踢“

怕封闭空间

”滴滴这四年：至少 50 起案例 53 名被害人都是女性“
\n”杭州母亲带孩子去医院看病电梯里被老大爷揩油“
\n”地铁偷拍女孩裙底“

在家里低人一等

”一家四口人，就三个人打她“
\n”四胞胎的姐姐睡厨房“
\n”因在女儿填高考志愿时起争执丈夫将妻子打致左耳鼓膜穿孔女儿的手掌被缝了三针“

婚姻

”我妈老是给我说结了婚才是完整的女人早点找人嫁了“
\n警方通报顺德低俗婚闹事件
\n几名伴郎有的抱住柳岩的腰有的抱着她的腿要将她扔到水里
\n”就是不想失去她我很爱她怕她出轨不想孩子没有妈妈残疾了别的男人就不喜欢她了“（男子持刀砍掉妻子的手）
\n”伤害陌生人是要受到惩罚的在家里为什么不呢结婚证不是犯罪许可证“
\n中国每年 15.7 万妇女自杀其中 60% 是家庭暴力
\n”孩子在肚子里的时候我老公和他的家人都想让我赶紧辞职当一个全职妈妈“
\n全职妈妈因为家庭不独立在家庭中地位极低这类家庭离婚概率极高

社会规训刻板印象

深圳龙华区青春期教材”男生喜欢什么样的女生？ “...
\n”青春期的时候曾经被男生嫌胖让陈女士觉得自卑日积月累后以厌食发泄出来“ （厌食症死亡率极高）
\n”女孩本就懦弱“ （不是被规训威胁出来要温柔体贴？）
\n”女生能做到这份上就可以了“ （why？）
\n”女生就是理科不好“ （事实：经济越发达思想越平等的地方男女理科成绩差异越小）

怕漂亮

”南昌女律师被杀害：因为你好看所以选你做鬼夫妻“

工作机会独立性

前几年和一个西交机械的学姐聊过她是年级第一某厂（知名度极高）招聘没要但班里不怎么学习的混日子男生能进

法律规定产假发工资但没有规定不能招聘歧视所以很多企业为了避免产假带来的经济损失和法律风险招聘时女性必须说”长期没有生育意愿“ ，不性别歧视的企业因为用人成本更高破产概率更大即使存在也会被劣币驱逐良币

害怕诉说害怕沉默

联合国妇女属曾统计全球至少有 35% 的女性曾遭遇身体或性暴力，部分国家的比例更是可能高达 70%
\n然而匿名调查问卷也是有很多人沉默需要仔细设计和找到前后不一致的矛盾

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为什么要发这个贴子？
\n上面这些焦虑我从来没感受到过，过去一直没有主动去注意过

总是能感受到前女友的恐惧对她好也会让她感到害怕这是我一直不理解的
\n现在大概的理解是社会环境让女性本能地怕短裙怕亲爱的人怕好看的花朵怕追求和接受一切”好“的东西不同人只是程度不同

没有真正平等的环境就不会产生平等的对话，更妄谈真正的爱情
\n我们感受到的爱情至多只是短暂和不完善的影子

谁是不平等的受害者？

男性和女性都是
\n女性是受害者很容易理解
\n为什么男性也是

（1）经济角度，《天空的另一半》提到经济领域解除对妇女的限制和歧视的地区（南亚和非洲的一些地区），妇女更少酗酒且更多投资儿童和教育因为全要素生产率的释放，经济增长率会发生质的变化

（2）不平等的世界没有爱情

谁是不平等的施加者？

男性和女性都是
\n人的行为是由自身对世界的认识发出的
\n在一个社会共识强大的地方不论男性还是女性年龄越大社会化程度越高
\n《天空的另一半》也提到在落后地区女性拐卖、暴力胁迫和性胁迫其他女性的参与度不比男性低印度的母亲也会认为受到性侵犯的女儿应该”荣誉自杀“

不是男性歧视女性多强也不是女性歧视男性多强有的只是所有人对女性的歧视受害者也是所有人

罪不是某个人的罪不是某个性别的罪而是社会意识的罪这只能通过改变文化而改变

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很多例子来自视频短片

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计划生育不止造成人口数量断崖

中国 20 世纪 80 年代初开始实施计划生育，一种流行的观点认为，这一政策导致中国性别比例失衡。根据这种观点，计划生育促使重男轻女的准父母在孩子出生前进行胎儿性别鉴定，如果发现怀的是女孩就选择堕胎。

对 2000 年人口普查数据进行分析后发现，被调查家庭所生育第一个子女中，男孩所占比例为 51.5%。而在那些头胎生了女儿的家庭中，第二胎中男孩所占比例为 62%——一个完全不正常的高比例。至于那些生了两胎都是女孩的家庭，所生第三胎中男孩比例则高达 70%。

学过概率论的同学都知道如何用事件的独立性和条件概率去解释上面的数据

受教育程度高不代表更平等

2014 年的一份调查显示，相比那些没有受过正规学校教育的女性，中国 7.4% 的受过高等教育女性更有可能在第二胎生男孩。医学期刊《柳叶刀》2011 年的一次调查显示，在同样存在性别比例失衡现象的印度，随着家庭收入水平和母亲受教育程度的提高，第二胎生育男孩的可能性也相应增加。

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支持法律规定男女同修产假，这样就没有工作歧视了

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楼主有些极端了。。。举的例子里面有 2/5 是极度重男轻女家庭里才会出现的极端案例，有 2/5 是有特殊时代背景的，只有 1/5 确实是会发生在现在的社会中（找工作 etc.）事实上，很多条目在任何性别的人身上都会发生。

极端化的输出使得上面的论述变得没有意义。那按照你的 list，我也能列出来诸如“男生一生都在害怕什么”、“LGBT 一生都在害怕什么”等等等等

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幽默楼上，查查新生儿性别比就知道会堕女胎的所谓“极端重男轻女家庭”有多少了

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你站废了。全是匿名哥，♂对♀，赢对输，顺直对彩虹，可续笠翁对韵。

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你站废了，权限哥只要意见不合的就删帖

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只有 1/5 确实是会发生在现在的社会中（找工作 etc.）事实上，很多条目在任何性别的人身上都会发生。
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但是发生的概率不同，比如未成年，女人，和男人都有可能被强奸，但是显然未成年受侵害的概率大一点，所以强奸未成年要比强奸女人判得重，强奸男人甚至没列入法律。

说说我自己粗浅的理解。美国把这种思路引入了别的领域，基础就是“我们默认少数人群天生比多数人群弱一点，并且成长过程中遭受社会压迫多一点”，所以在求职/选举等等各种领域，如果一个少数人群和一个多数人群差不多水平，甚至水平低一点，那么我们认为这个少数人群其实克服了比另一个人更多的困难，所以我们认为这个少数人群更优秀。
\n这有点涉及到”绝对公平“和”相对公平“。回到强奸的问题，男人就不是人吗？为什么男人的贞操比未成年人便宜？所以这个问题我自己也没太想明白，但是感觉挺有意思的，有理解的也可以说说。

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女生一生中要害怕的比这多多了，比如你在独自面对比你更强壮的男性时、独自走夜路时、和一堆兴致高涨的男性呆在一起时，实实在在地会面临更多危险、感到更大威胁。

男同志对待女同志时要 more gently。有些感受你很难 relate，所以难以理解，你就得多谨慎一点，注意自己的行为。

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不知道有啥好笑

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女生觉得被不公平对待应该自己去争取平等，而不是让人区别对待。这就是我弱我有理的典范。比如你觉得奥运会都是男人参加，那你就努力训练去打败男选手，而不是创造出一个女子组，只让女人参加

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关闭话题吧，感觉🚪要成垃圾桶🗑️了😓

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争取平等，而不是让人区别对待
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区别对待有两种一种是落后的社会共识带来的负面一种是制度保障带来的正面
\n你想消除后者那就得放下自己的傲慢消除掉前者

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基本都是 21 世纪的新闻就是在这样的环境耳濡目染长大的天天都是特殊时代
\n在任何性别的人身上都会发生但数据就是比例悬殊

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门是一个让人说话的地方。
\n总不能因为别人说的话不合自己心意就称之为垃圾吧。

男女话题是一个永恒的争议话题，因为是一拨人想要在零和的情况下扩大自己的利益，必然引发思想的冲突。

而思想的冲突正是引发智慧的地方。

个人相信目前的门友拥有在遵守社群公约的最基本条件下对这个话题发表评论的能力，而 mod 有能力在最基本的程度上维护这种认同。

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以及分享个人了解到的一些学术观点。
\n男女冲突问题作为一个社会热点，少不了相关的 social science 研究，关于前几位门友频繁提到的”失踪女童“问题，也有一些颇有影响力的文章出现。

失踪女童的出现不仅仅出现在”出生即死亡“的环节，是蔓延从天然性别比例到选择性流产到漏报/瞒报/迟报户口的全流程的社会现象。

还是希望大家作为一名理工科为主的大学的学生，在同龄人里至少前 1% 的水平，至少先做一些调查，不要凭着 intuitive 和“身边统计学”就大放厥词

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https://www3.weforum.org/docs/WEF_GGGR_2024.pdf

\n客观数据比较的是不同性别的经济参与度和机会医疗教育保障行政参与\n中日韩都是倒数日本比中国排名还差靠近世界垫底\n这不是靠发展经济能解决的","createdAt":"2024-08-05 15:49:55.148496","updatedAt":"2024-08-05 15:49:55.148496","replyToPostNumber":null,"replyCount":0,"likeCount":1,"wordCount":66,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[{"reaction":"❤️","count":1,"users":[{"id":6205,"username":"uika_winwing","name":null}],"hasReacted":false}],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":4668,"username":"IO","name":null,"avatarUrl":null,"admin":true,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":"","signatureCooked":null}},{"id":38318,"postNumber":21,"raw":"[quote=\"sola, post:19, topic:13209\"]\n理工科为主的大学的学生\n[/quote]\n\n楼上很多回复说明理工科学校培养出一批没有科学精神和实证研究能力的时代螺丝","cooked":"

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理工科为主的大学的学生
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楼上很多回复说明理工科学校培养出一批没有科学精神和实证研究能力的时代螺丝

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零和的情况下扩大自己的利益
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扩张缺人时候就不是零和了
\n还是得在有机会的时候抓住机会搞钱

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每当战争爆发，劳动力需求暴涨的时刻，女性权利就能得到提高

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比如你觉得奥运会都是男人参加，那你就努力训练去打败男选手，而不是创造出一个女子组，只让女人参加
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你这个例子明显是错误的。

为什么奥运会都是健全的人参加，我们残疾人应该努力训练打败健全人，而不是创造出一个残奥会，只让残疾人参加。

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别的不说这个匿名左右互搏看的我根本不清楚谁是谁

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亟需引入 Alice Bob 的楼内匿名身份机制

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这下变树洞了😨

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因为夏娃们基因层面就隶属无产阶级，同样带有无产阶级毁灭一切的隐秘欲望，楼主就是一个鲜活的例子。
\n作为男人的肋骨，天生就不能正直。偷吃苹果就是她们的阶级本能，圣经如此书写并不是没有道理。亲近各种热衷于老鼠上桌的哲学负典也是意料之中。
\n所谓父权社会的罪行，按照廉价七成正确原则，都是性价比最高的判断路径。不过据我所知，有种人是蝎子的性格，专坑自己的恩人，直到冥冥之中的天平恢复平衡。
\n当然，德性有高低，有些国家们伊甸园里还无事发生，也许这并不是她们的本意。但是对于贵国的夏娃，希望她们能坚持到自己德性相匹的下场为止。毕竟上帝放出大洪水，就是用来甄别德性的。
\n#隐秘欲望学
\n#德行匹下学

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婚姻

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怕漂亮

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谁是不平等的受害者？

谁是不平等的施加者？

计划生育不止造成人口数量断崖

受教育程度高不代表更平等

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